Are Pearl Izumi products made for Asian/Japanese people?
Their mtb shoes are like 1 size smaller than what I normally wear, same with their arm, leg, and shoe covers, everything feels a bit smaller than usual. The large size arm cover feels like a medium, possible between medium and small. While the size is weird, there is no question that most of their products offer great value for the money, and I would rate quality better than many big name American brands. Is Pearl Izumi the best Japanese bike accessories brand? Are there other Japanese brands that offer cycling accessories?
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I think they are owned by Shimano. I find I need XL everything, and I am slightly shorter than the average American (but probably a bit fatter than the average cyclist).
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I think their sizing is for everyone except fat Americans. the rest of the world has to size down if the product was designed by Americans.
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there is really no standard closing sizes. just ask women.
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I find this comment too funny to be offensive :)
Originally Posted by mack_turtle
(Post 21892599)
I think their sizing is for everyone except fat Americans. the rest of the world has to size down if the product was designed by Americans.
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havent had much luck with there products for being long enough. The bigger I select in size only makes it baggy. Sucks being taller.
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I actually find their sizing to be pretty good as I am not skinny and their jerseys, shorts, and shoes match up with what I normally wear. And I am not asian if that matters.
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Originally Posted by Obeast
(Post 21892579)
Their mtb shoes are like 1 size smaller than what I normally wear, same with their arm, leg, and shoe covers, everything feels a bit smaller than usual. The large size arm cover feels like a medium, possible between medium and small. While the size is weird, there is no question that most of their products offer great value for the money, and I would rate quality better than many big name American brands. Is Pearl Izumi the best Japanese bike accessories brand? Are there other Japanese brands that offer cycling accessories?
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Why would it have to be "Asian/Japanese" people specifically? A good deal of cycling apparel is made for generally skinnier folks and less so for people of average body size or above.
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Pearl's sizing is well known to be an American fit. A medium Pearl is probably an XL in many European brands. Yes, we Americans are fatter than the rest of the world. This is not news. Like most manufacturers, Pearl makes various levels of apparel. Some nicer than others but mostly decent to above average.
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Originally Posted by coffeesnob
(Post 21892822)
Their web site said that size 42 equals size 9 in U.S. I ordered mtb shoes size 42 but box i got said 42= 8.5 I couldn't even begin to get my fat American feet in them
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv
(Post 21892829)
Pearl's sizing is well known to be an American fit. A medium Pearl is probably an XL in many European brands. Yes, we Americans are fatter than the rest of the world. This is not news. Like most manufacturers, Pearl makes various levels of apparel. Some nicer than others but mostly decent to above average.
I need an XL in their PRO line, large in the Elite line, and a medium in their mountain bike line. The PRO line is pretty similar to a lot of the European brands. I take an XL or XXL in Castelli, for instance. |
Originally Posted by veganbikes
(Post 21892827)
Why would it have to be "Asian/Japanese" people specifically? A good deal of cycling apparel is made for generally skinnier folks and less so for people of average body size or above.
It is well established that some clothing sizing is labeled 'asian', 'euro', and 'american'. Also, it is common for brands to explain that an American should size up and select XXL instead of L, for example. Reality is that we aren't all the same. It is nice that this is recognized and specifics are listed when considering clothing you cant try on in person before ordering. |
These shoes are the same size as my previous Shimano shoes and fit just as well. I’m not Asian/Japanese. Must be you.
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Originally Posted by Steamer
(Post 21892918)
I need an XL in their PRO line, large in the Elite line,
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Pearl Izumi was founded in Colorado, so although it's owned by Shimano now, I wouldn't think of it as a Japanese accessories company.
I do :foo: whenever people complain about sizing. I use a tape measure and go by size charts, which have never been off in chest/hip/waist, only length. For me, PI stuff tends to be longer for the nominal size than other brands, but even their Pro line is baggy compared to every other brand that I have bought. |
Originally Posted by surak
(Post 21893381)
Pearl Izumi was founded in Colorado, so although it's owned by Shimano now, I wouldn't think of it as a Japanese accessories company.
I do :foo: whenever people complain about sizing. I use a tape measure and go by size charts, which have never been off in chest/hip/waist, only length. For me, PI stuff tends to be longer for the nominal size than other brands, but even their Pro line is baggy compared to every other brand that I have bought. |
Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 21893349)
These shoes are the same size as my previous Shimano shoes and fit just as well. I’m not Asian/Japanese. Must be you.
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Originally Posted by DorkDisk
(Post 21893658)
We have the same cat.
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Originally Posted by Obeast
(Post 21892579)
Their mtb shoes are like 1 size smaller than what I normally wear, same with their arm, leg, and shoe covers, everything feels a bit smaller than usual.
Originally Posted by Obeast
(Post 21892579)
Is Pearl Izumi the best Japanese bike accessories brand? Are there other Japanese brands that offer cycling accessories?
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It's hard to beat trying clothes on in a store, as 20th century as that sounds. After you find something that fits, buy one in the store and then you can order more on-line. How much time and postage does it take to return something that was sized too small, and how does that compare with cost and time "savings" from mail-order?
It's not just shorts and shoes, either. I ordered some winter gloves my LBS didn't carry. Two out of three pairs were unusable because the fingers were too short -- do designers really thing XXL hand's fingers are no longer than M?? |
I like Castellie and they are also quite small. Italians must be Asians or something :)
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With the fancier brands there may be an "aspirational" aspect to their sizing. Having us porkers decked out in their kit isn't going to help so they make it difficult. You aren't going to see Lampre Man in an ad even if he grew 3 day stubble and developed chiseled cheekbones.
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Originally Posted by wgscott
(Post 21892588)
I think they are owned by Shimano. I find I need XL everything, and I am slightly shorter than the average American (but probably a bit fatter than the average cyclist).
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What they need to do is make cycling shoes with actual widths, such as A to EEE so those of us with wide feet can have a comfortable shoe.
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