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city_cowboy 11-15-17 12:02 AM

Road Ti Bikes + 28 to 35 mm Tires?
 
I was taking a look at value leader Motobecane Ti road bikes. Pretty phenomenal pricing for Dura Ace or Etap.

However, the frame cannot accommodate 28 mm tires. I want a minimum of 28mm, and preferably the option to fit larger, 32 or even 35 mm.

Are there any endurance or race Ti frames which can accommodate wider tires? I've checked Lynskey and Motobecane so far and neither can accommodate wider tires.

twodownzero 11-15-17 12:27 AM

there have been two threads on the forum about the Lynskey R260 in the last week. I even asked for pictures of the tire clearance!

SethAZ 11-15-17 12:42 AM

These pics are of frame or fork clearance around a Compass 32mm Stampede Pass tire mounted on a Lynskey R260. Inflated to 83psi the rear tire measured out to 33.25mm real width on the Grail rim.

The R260 ships with the Lynskey Pro Carbon Gravel fork:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/160...924/tKneLA.jpg

I didn't measure it with a ruler, but eyeballing it there's around 3/8" (10mm) of space between the sides of the 32mm tire and the chain stays. I didn't take a pic showing the specific offset from the seat tube, but it's similar, and could fit a much taller tire.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/160...924/edUz7s.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/160...923/fFYE95.jpg

superdex 11-15-17 12:44 AM

regardless of frame material, if you're looking for more than 28mm tires, you're pretty much looking at discs. Plug that into your searches and you might be more successful...

fa63 11-15-17 07:29 AM

Kinesis Racelight Grandfondo:

https://www.probikekit.com/cycling-f...Fct7wQodlskBxw

It says it fits 28 mm tires with fenders; I imagine 32 mm tires without them would work just fine.

WhyFi 11-15-17 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by city_cowboy (Post 19994048)
...or even 35 mm.

An endurance frame that can accommodate 35s is gravel bike - you should be able to find a decent selection in Ti.

chaadster 11-15-17 08:49 AM

Foundry Overland can take 41c, the Chilkoot 28s.

There's Van Nicholas' Amazon Cross, too; that's gotta clear 35s, I'd think.

carlos danger 11-15-17 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by city_cowboy (Post 19994048)
I was taking a look at value leader Motobecane Ti road bikes. Pretty phenomenal pricing for Dura Ace or Etap.

However, the frame cannot accommodate 28 mm tires. I want a minimum of 28mm, and preferably the option to fit larger, 32 or even 35 mm.

Are there any endurance or race Ti frames which can accommodate wider tires? I've checked Lynskey and Motobecane so far and neither can accommodate wider tires.

look at the cooper frame and/or proX, those can accommodate 40ies i think.

SethAZ 11-15-17 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by MichaelSneddon (Post 19994881)
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Huh? Quoting so that you get a message. Wrong thread. Interesting though.

Dean V 11-15-17 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 19994316)
An endurance frame that can accommodate 35s is gravel bike - you should be able to find a decent selection in Ti.

Domane disc will take 35s. Its not usually referred to as a gravel bike.

markjenn 11-15-17 01:13 PM

Dunno if you want to build up a bike, but Habanero's cross Ti frame can be set up with several different forks that have 45mm+ capability and there is no issue in the rear. Mine has a Ti fork from an old Everti and I absolutely love this bike as a general-purpose road touring bike and gravel bike. Not the lightest, but easy handling and very comfortable. And the frame is reasonably priced for Ti.

https://www.habcycles.com/cross.html

- Mark

twodownzero 11-15-17 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by markjenn (Post 19995146)
Dunno if you want to build up a bike, but Habanero's cross Ti frame can be set up with several different forks that have 45mm+ capability and there is no issue in the rear. Mine has a Ti fork from an old Everti and I absolutely love this bike as a general-purpose road touring bike and gravel bike. Not the lightest, but easy handling and very comfortable. And the frame is reasonably priced for Ti.

https://www.habcycles.com/cross.html

- Mark

If they made one I could stand over, I'd be tempted to order one right now. I don't know where they would find a rider that needs a 510mm top tube length who can stand over a top tube that is 780mm from the ground, but when you find me one of those people, you can sell me on their bikes.

From the looks of their geometry, this is really just the consequence of them not scaling their design for the different sizes.

markjenn 11-15-17 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by twodownzero (Post 19995172)
If they made one I could stand over, I'd be tempted to order one right now. I don't know where they would find a rider that needs a 510mm top tube length who can stand over a top tube that is 780mm from the ground, but when you find me one of those people, you can sell me on their bikes.

Well, I'm not an expert on bike frame dimensions, but at 6-2" and with fairly normal proportions, I've never had a bike fit better than my 59cm Hab and I've done several multi-week tours with days approaching 100 miles with no comfort or bike handling issues. Standover seems more/less normal with other road bikes I have with level (or nearly level) top tubes. YMMV.

- Mark

PedalingWalrus 11-15-17 01:42 PM

I bought a used Ti frame of Salsa Warbird and built it up.

SethAZ 11-15-17 01:54 PM

Another drive-by OP who never came back to see what others had offered up to their original question. Sigh.

WhyFi 11-15-17 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by Dean V (Post 19995089)
Domane disc will take 35s. Its not usually referred to as a gravel bike.

The Domane Disc Gravel, you mean?

indyfabz 11-15-17 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by SethAZ (Post 19995252)
Another drive-by OP who never came back to see what others had offered up to their original question. Sigh.

And you know that how? His last forum activity was within the last hour. Maybe he read the responses and is doing some research based on those responses. And the thread isn't even 24 hrs. old.


BTW...Your front tire has a cut in it.

SethAZ 11-15-17 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 19995437)
And you know that how? His last forum activity was within the last hour. Maybe he read the responses and is doing some research based on those responses. And the thread isn't even 24 hrs. old.


BTW...Your front tire has a cut in it.

If you're looking at what I think you're looking at, that's actually a shadow cast by a scrap of the flash that hasn't worn off yet. The tire is brand new plus 45 miles so far, and some of the flash is still there. The sun was still pretty low when that photo was taken, so the shadow is longer than the actual flash that cast it.

FlashBazbo 11-15-17 04:33 PM

Lynskey has a whole list of road bikes that will accommodate 32mm and wider tires. I ran 38mm on mine and had plenty of clearance.


But, as has been mentioned, you've got to look at the disc brake bikes.

gettingold 11-16-17 11:03 AM

Lynskey R 260 Disc. Easily accommodates 32mms and probably bigger.

Wittyname 11-16-17 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by chaadster (Post 19994444)
Foundry Overland can take 41c, the Chilkoot 28s.

There's Van Nicholas' Amazon Cross, too; that's gotta clear 35s, I'd think.

Chilkoot won't take all 28s... got rub when I tried Continental GP4000 IIS on the stock rims. Bontrager AW2 works just fine though

matt92037 11-16-17 07:37 PM

My new Lynskey R275 easily fits a Pro One 28 that measures out at 30mm. Using calipers I measure the narrow area where the chain stays and tire converge at about 38mm or so.

I do not see myself ever running bigger than 28’s ever. Any and all dirt work is left for my MTBs.

thedave80 11-16-17 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by carlos danger (Post 19994866)
look at the cooper frame and/or proX, those can accommodate 40ies i think.

My Lynskey Cooper takes up to 40 ad has been excellent on 28's as a road bike. Only downside is it's a bit heavier than a straight up road bike

vintagerando 11-16-17 10:07 PM

I wonder if a mid 90s Merlin will take 28mil. I have my eye on one; its out of state, so I cannot determine for sure if it will work. Any Merlin owners running 28mil?

carlos danger 11-17-17 03:07 AM


Originally Posted by thedave80 (Post 19998164)
My Lynskey Cooper takes up to 40 ad has been excellent on 28's as a road bike. Only downside is it's a bit heavier than a straight up road bike

I have a medium cooper cx from 2015 i think. and it takes 35mm with fenders, but I think I can fit 40ies with fenders if I really wanted to.

the newer coopers and proX will most definitely take 40ies.

my cooper weighed in at 1700g (medium) and I measured a proX here recently and it came in at 1850g for the same size, but this one has plate style driveside chainstay and tapered headtube, twisted tubes, triangular toptube, swappable dropouts. I have a feeling those "features" is whats driving the weight up.


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