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Wildwood 08-15-19 01:30 AM

Patina or Beausage - visual gradations and visualizations, please
 
Collectors may value patina on an original frameset.

Show your patina proudly - Light or moderate or heavy.

Riders who ride big mileage AND vintage bikes may value a touch of beausage.

Show your beausage proudly - Light or moderate. Spare us heavy

Wildwood 08-15-19 01:36 AM

I have my examples but will hold back until I get a feel for where the fine line is drawn betwixt the 2 categories.

randyjawa 08-15-19 01:42 AM

One of the two bikes that did not go in N-all but 2...
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d802f39af1.jpg

Wildwood 08-15-19 02:47 AM

^^^^^. Would you call it heavy patina or light beausage?

thinktubes 08-15-19 06:43 AM

Heavy patina/moderate (a)beausage...




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SJX426 08-15-19 07:36 AM

Little bit of both. The top coat is fading fast but the option of repaint is not on the table.
https://live.staticflickr.com/1886/3...85a7d8ff_k.jpg
CConversion95 by Patrick Boulden, on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/3894/1...152938d9_k.jpg
P1020156 by Patrick Boulden, on Flickr

Decals fell off leaving a ghost.
https://live.staticflickr.com/3894/1...110424d3_k.jpg
P1020155 by Patrick Boulden, on Flickr

TenGrainBread 08-15-19 07:54 AM

Purple overcoat on this 60s French Bazou majorly faded, revealing the silver undercoat, except where protected from the sun by the band-on shifter mount.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...017d1b04_c.jpg

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TenGrainBread 08-15-19 07:57 AM

No longer have this bike, but some nice chips here and there and I liked the scuffed Ritchey stem decal.

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ollo_ollo 08-15-19 08:14 AM

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I'll have to go through my pics to find some frame examples, but here's a saddle example. A $5 Vetta from NW Hub. Very comfortable saddle, kind of an overstuffed Turbo with both beausage & patina. Treated the leather to preserve what's left. Put it on my Fisher Montare & Liked it well enough to locate one in near new condition. New one moves from bike to bike at present. Don

rustystrings61 08-15-19 08:35 AM

Six years ago I was going to rattlecan this '71 Gitane TdF flat black. But then I saw it in the sunlight, scars, sun-faded candy-apple Omnium Vert, outlines of hardware long gone, chrome worn thin in places, but some just perfect anyway. So I daubed on a blend of Testor's model paint over the worst scrapes and built it up with a four decade span of parts where each one has a story in its own right and somehow it just came together organically like it was meant to be this bike from the very beginning. It is eerie how smooth and perfect this bike is, how what was meant to be a vacation beater has become the velo I ride more than all my other bikes combined.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b8909532dc.jpg


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2cfc835222.jpg

I bought this B17 new in 2000. It got the scrapes and scars when a clipless pedal spontaneously released later that year and I went over the bars at 25 mph. It has graced a Bianchi, a Peugeot, a Trek and a Dawes before finally finding its true home on this Gitane.

ridelikeaturtle 08-15-19 08:36 AM

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Hudson308 08-15-19 08:54 AM

I think @DQRider wins this one...
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...280ee125e7.png

Andy_K 08-15-19 11:04 AM

The paint on this bike looks perfect in pictures, but the yellow panels that were once white give a hint of its true condition. It's got the best patina, without straying into decay, of any bike I own. I added the Turbo saddle, which is far too worn for a restored bike but suits this one perfectly. The bar tape could use a bit more wear.

https://live.staticflickr.com/7870/4...5fe79bab_b.jpg


This one also has a good bit of patina that hides from the camera.

https://live.staticflickr.com/4878/4...265790ca_b.jpg

In this case, though, I think it crosses the line into damage. A previous owner attempted touch up, but it's pretty ugly.

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horatio 08-15-19 11:09 AM

Great thread. Keep 'em coming.

ridelikeaturtle 08-15-19 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by Andy_K (Post 21076892)

That frame is badass, I've never seen one like it. Very very nice.

Andy_K 08-15-19 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by ridelikeaturtle (Post 21076907)
That frame is badass, I've never seen one like it. Very very nice.

I've seen a picture of one other like this. I talked to the guy who owns the other one, and he says he was able to verify that this was a finish that was available from Serotta when the bikes were new. He had his repainted and replaced "King of the Mountain" with "Jester of the Mountain." You can see it here: https://thepaceline.net/forums/showthread.php?t=117821

Slightspeed 08-15-19 01:59 PM

My $50 Legnano Gran Premio barn find, my most "patined" bike, still rides great!
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f8b461beac.jpg
As bought.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...98b878000e.jpg
As bought.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...91b9e44b47.jpg
Following aluminum foil polish.
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As bought.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...38df3c9656.jpg
More aluminum foil polish.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...86cab7e4fc.jpg
Gallons of patina.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1aec50eff6.jpg
Completed $100 Clunker Challenge.

iab 08-15-19 05:08 PM

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Frejus 01 by iabisdb, on Flickr

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Frejus 06 by iabisdb, on Flickr

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Frejus 13 by iabisdb, on Flickr

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Frejus 21 by iabisdb, on Flickr

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Frejus 32 by iabisdb, on Flickr

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Frejus 44 by iabisdb, on Flickr

iab 08-15-19 05:12 PM

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Frejus001 by iabisdb, on Flickr

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Frejus005 by iabisdb, on Flickr

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Frejus031 by iabisdb, on Flickr

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Frejus039 by iabisdb, on Flickr

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Frejus044 by iabisdb, on Flickr

iab 08-15-19 05:15 PM

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Cinelli_Model_B 004 by iabisdb, on Flickr

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Cinelli_Model_B 036 by iabisdb, on Flickr

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Cinelli_Model_B 058 by iabisdb, on Flickr

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Cinelli_Model_B 151 by iabisdb, on Flickr

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Cinelli_Model_B 046 by iabisdb, on Flickr

lorenzo_de_leon 08-15-19 06:32 PM

diggin' this thread; a welcome change of pace from all those hopelessly spotless, shiny show horses.

P!N20 08-15-19 06:45 PM

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uncle uncle 08-15-19 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by SJX426 (Post 21076514)
Little bit of both. The top coat is fading fast but the option of repaint is not on the table.
https://live.staticflickr.com/1886/3...85a7d8ff_k.jpg
CConversion95 by Patrick Boulden, on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/3894/1...152938d9_k.jpg
P1020156 by Patrick Boulden, on Flickr

Decals fell off leaving a ghost.
https://live.staticflickr.com/3894/1...110424d3_k.jpg
P1020155 by Patrick Boulden, on Flickr

You sorta accept that this is in your future, don't you, with a Pinarello of a certain vintage? Love the ghost letters... those are perfection.

Drillium Dude 08-15-19 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by P!N20 (Post 21077524)

Intriguing spoke pattern you have there. Care to elaborate?

DD

P!N20 08-15-19 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by Drillium Dude (Post 21077801)
Intriguing spoke pattern you have there. Care to elaborate?

DD

Three leading, three trailing.

https://i.postimg.cc/0Q7qHBbz/DSC-9104-1.jpg


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