Suicide shifters Huret Simplex
Would like know if anyone are using such shifters. pictures?.I would like to install one a motobecane Pantin maybe 70s made.Thank you
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I wouldn't install one on a 70's bike just doesn't go with the bike also most are the older seat tube diameter 26.5 outside and wont't fit a mid 70's Moto with 27.0.
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Ok Thank you
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Originally Posted by CTony
(Post 21432234)
Would like know if anyone are using such shifters. pictures?.I would like to install one a motobecane Pantin maybe 70s made.Thank you
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Originally Posted by branko_76
(Post 21432323)
What are "suicide shifters" ?
If letting go of your handlebars for a second to shift is akin to suicide, it's time to work on your bike handling... https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...rs-really.html |
Originally Posted by Salamandrine
(Post 21432352)
That's what I'm wondering. I heard this a couple years back as a reference to downtube shifters. Historically it was more likely to refer to the old rod shifted front derailleurs.
If letting go of your handlebars for a second to shift is akin to suicide, it's time to work on your bike handling... https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...rs-really.html I've never used anything but shifters mounted on the downtube. I don't recall having to look at them to shift. |
Originally Posted by Salamandrine
(Post 21432352)
That's what I'm wondering. I heard this a couple years back as a reference to downtube shifters. Historically it was more likely to refer to the old rod shifted front derailleurs.
If letting go of your handlebars for a second to shift is akin to suicide, it's time to work on your bike handling... https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...rs-really.html http://www.theracingbicycle.com/imag..._chainring.JPG |
Originally Posted by branko_76
(Post 21432355)
I see.
I've never used anything but shifters mounted on the downtube. I don't recall having to look at them to shift. |
Originally Posted by branko_76
(Post 21432371)
I guess this is the original "suicide shifter", wondering if this is what the op is referring to?
I don't think seat tube sizes changed significantly between the 30s and the early 90s, and if they did there's always shims. |
Originally Posted by CTony
(Post 21432234)
Would like know if anyone are using such shifters. pictures?.I would like to install one a motobecane Pantin maybe 70s made.Thank you
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Originally Posted by Salamandrine
(Post 21432383)
Maybe, let's hope. They were out by the 70s, but if the OP wants to put one on a 70s bike, why not?
I don't think seat tube sizes changed significantly between the 30s and the early 90s, and if they did there's always shims. |
Ok,Now where can I get one
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You get them from French ebay, assuming delivery services still cross the pond. (Anyone know how shipping has been going?) American prices much higher. Search on both “suicide” and on “levier”. The Huret on my Bates needed about ten seconds of help to work with a larger than French seat tube. Traditionalists very well might have used a rod operated shifter into 1970s. It does take a moment to reach down, the action is very positive and intuitive. Learning curve is about zero, it just works.
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Rod-type front shifters
I have these on a few bikes, mostly French ones from the 40s and 50s. They look neat and shift well, although the long reach down does take some getting used to. My favorite is the Simplex Competition, as it shifts the best and has the widest range of adjustment. I have found that the Huret sometimes won't have quite enough cage travel. Most of these rod shifters were made to fit a 28.0 (French) seat tube, so there should be no problem on a 70s French bike. You also want to make sure that the cage extends down far enough to handle your small chainring. I typically run something like 32-46 on the front of these bikes, and the Simplex can handle this fine. These shifters are fairly readily available on ebay.fr, but they aren't cheap and the shipping is expensive too. Sometimes a bargain can be found if you are patient.
Early 50s Metropole racer. The band and the knob were both missing so I made new ones out of aluminum: https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d408c2790d.jpg Early 50s Blondin racer. This Simplex shifter was actually made in Italy: https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...067fad58c8.jpg Late 40s Alleluia 650B randoneuse with original Huret shifter. The location of the brazed-on mounting bracket is not ideal for this small of an outer ring. A chainguard can be fitted to the threaded hole in the pivot pin: https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9d713e4666.jpg Late 40s LeGreves racer, although the shifer is from the late 50s (with the plastic knob): https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8202a42dd7.jpg |
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