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buchro 09-12-20 03:58 PM

why grease seat post?
 
I've read that greast helps prevent rust and keeps the post from "freezing" in place.
As a casual biker, will I really need to adjust the seat height? Is the point that the
seat may slip down and then freeze in a spot that's too low for my body?

GlennR 09-12-20 04:02 PM

If you have a carbon fiber bike, it won't rust.

cb400bill 09-12-20 04:06 PM

Over time, metals like an aluminum seatpost and a steel seat tube can fuse through oxidation or bind through friction. Simply applying a coat of grease between the two provides a barrier against corrosion.

https://www.missionbicycle.com/blog/...st%20corrosion.

ofajen 09-12-20 04:16 PM

So it won’t make a mysterious creaking noise when you are pedaling out of the saddle.

Otto

Maelochs 09-12-20 04:46 PM

I have heard it called "galvanic welding" or something .... but a seat post can bond electrically with the seat tube, and you will go through all kinds of backyard mechanical improvisations and uncivil vocabulary exercises before you get the sucker free ... and sometimes you will do irreparable harm in the process.

From what I hear ..... :innocent:

sdmc530 09-12-20 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Maelochs (Post 21690860)

From what I hear ..... :innocent:


I too have only heard of this phenomime…..sound like a terrible situation....or so I have heard?

wolfchild 09-12-20 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by GlennR (Post 21690803)
If you have a carbon fiber bike, it won't rust.

I have steel and aluminium bikes which have 13 Canadian winters on them and none of my frames are rusted or corroded yet. I did spray some rustproofing oil inside my steel frames and never had an issue with corrosion.

wipekitty 09-12-20 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Maelochs (Post 21690860)
I have heard it called "galvanic welding" or something .... but a seat post can bond electrically with the seat tube, and you will go through all kinds of backyard mechanical improvisations and uncivil vocabulary exercises before you get the sucker free ... and sometimes you will do irreparable harm in the process.

From what I hear ..... :innocent:

I've heard about this as well...in fact, a "friend" told me that they once had to take their bike to the LBS to get it unstuck, at which point the mechanic sold them a giant tub of grease :eek:

IGH_Only 09-12-20 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by GlennR (Post 21690803)
If you have a carbon fiber bike, it won't rust.

What if you have a carbon seat post with an aluminum or steel frame?

Koyote 09-12-20 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by cb400bill (Post 21690808)
Over time, metals like an aluminum seatpost and a steel seat tube can fuse through oxidation or bind through friction. Simply applying a coat of grease between the two provides a barrier against corrosion.

https://www.missionbicycle.com/blog/...st%20corrosion.

Even if I don't have any other reason to pull a seatpost from the frame, I will do it every year or two in order to reapply a thin film of grease. It's cheap insurance.

veganbikes 09-12-20 06:54 PM

Because every single mechanic on the planet will want to kill you for allowing parts to seize.

For aluminum or steel posts in aluminum or steel frames use grease
For titanium use anti-seize/copper paste
For carbon posts or posts in carbon frames use carbon paste

Don't let your seatpost or any other parts get seized on any of your bikes.

OldTryGuy 09-13-20 03:30 AM


Originally Posted by Maelochs (Post 21690860)
I have heard it called "galvanic welding" or something .... but a seat post can bond electrically with the seat tube, and you will go through all kinds of backyard mechanical improvisations and uncivil vocabulary exercises before you get the sucker free ... and sometimes you will do irreparable harm in the process.

From what I hear ..... :innocent:


Originally Posted by sdmc530 (Post 21690882)
I too have only heard of this phenomime…..sound like a terrible situation....or so I have heard?


Originally Posted by wipekitty (Post 21690995)
I've heard about this as well...in fact, a "friend" told me that they once had to take their bike to the LBS to get it unstuck, at which point the mechanic sold them a giant tub of grease :eek:

Personal experience required a total frame stripping, soaking with Blaster and then clamping seat post in a vice and twist.


Originally Posted by veganbikes (Post 21691034)
Because every single mechanic on the planet will want to kill you for allowing parts to seize.

For aluminum or steel posts in aluminum or steel frames use grease
For titanium use anti-seize/copper paste
For carbon posts or posts in carbon frames use carbon paste

Don't let your seatpost or any other parts get seized on any of your bikes.

Different frame materials requires different compounds, or not.

indyfabz 09-13-20 03:53 AM

The real question is: Why not do it?

dedhed 09-13-20 05:52 AM

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...-seatpost.html

Moe Zhoost 09-13-20 06:29 AM

Never have to adjust a seat post? This is dreaming. I have to drop my saddle to prevent interference when transporting 2 bikes on my platform rack. Even if you don't have to do this, a change of saddles, pedals, or shoes will have you making small adjustments. Stuck seatposts are not common, but so easy to prevent with a dab of grease. Just do it!

schind1324 09-13-20 06:48 AM

A small amount of grease will help prevent the post from sticking in the frame. It actually helps keep it tighter also. I was a bike mechanic in my younger days and we greased the posts of every bike we assembled.

gecho 09-13-20 01:54 PM

A guy I know bought a used steel fat bike. He needed to use lye to dissolve the old seat post to get it out.

coffeesnob 09-13-20 02:09 PM

if it gets that bad a little kroil and a pipe wrench will unfreeze it

noglider 09-13-20 02:10 PM

You may think you have it set at the right height, but much later, you may need to change it. You may discover it's been too low or high for years. Or you may want to loan your bike to someone. You may want to sell it or give it away. You may want to take the seat post and seat out to jam it into a cramped car or other small space. Grease the seat post every year to prevent this problem.

Gresp15C 09-13-20 05:28 PM

Amusing anecdote: I went to a bike auction a few years ago, to raise rent money for the bike co-op. I bought a couple bikes for parts. Two or three of the people, including me, had brought a small number of tools and were checking seatposts. A stuck seatpost meant the bike went back on the pile, no bid.

bg18947 09-13-20 05:41 PM

Chemistry 101
 
Specifically lithium grease creates a barrier between aluminum and steel (iron alloy). Whenever the outside electrons of two elements adds up to 7, an ionic bond occurs (galvanization). Same reason why you put Never-Seize on spark plugs.

JohnDThompson 09-13-20 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by buchro (Post 21690801)
I've read that greast helps prevent rust and keeps the post from "freezing" in place.
As a casual biker, will I really need to adjust the seat height? Is the point that the
seat may slip down and then freeze in a spot that's too low for my body?

Perhaps at some point you will replace the current saddle with one that has a slightly different rail-to-saddle-top distance. Or perhaps you will suffer an injury or age-related change that limits your knee range of motion, requiring a shorter crank arm and different saddle height. Perhaps you want to sell the frame to someone else who needs a different saddle height. And so on…

Reflector Guy 09-14-20 05:54 AM

The same phenomenon happens with modern automobiles and their aluminum suspension parts too. Ever try to replace a wheel bearing hub in an aluminum steering knuckle, if you live in the salt belt? I've had to remove the steering knuckles from the car and chisel out the bearing from behind a few times. This was never a problem on older cars with steel (or is it iron?) components. The dissimilar metals we see now react with the moisture and salt almost as if they've been welded together.

pdlamb 09-14-20 06:18 AM

I think I recall reading that greasing the seatpost (lightly, please!) also helps prevent binding when you're tightening the bolt. There's supposedly a possibility that with a dry seatpost, it'll grab the seat tube so that you'll tighten the bolt to spec. Then you get on the bike, start riding, and the vibration shakes the seatpost free, which then falls under your body weight.

Am I remembering correctly, or just dreaming?


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