Astm condition 3
 

Why are there TWO different TOTAL MAXIMUM WEIGHT LIMITS?


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What's Astm Condition 3 ?
 

Go to the source you quote, which is not this forum.

https://www.astm.org/index.html







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The 5 lb limit is for seat bags only and the 55 lb limit is for seat bag + rack mounted luggage

I was comparing the load of the Salsa WarRoad to the Trek Checkpoint and asked Salsa. I did not have a chance to look up the ASTM so thank you. But I got this response from Salsa. If I recall correctly the Trek Checkpoint was 275 pounds.
Your Question: “What is the weight capacity of the WarRoad? Rider, bike and gear.”

Answer: “As an ASTM Condition 2 bicycle the Warroad is rated for a 300lb rider and 55lbs of luggage!”

what astm standard is it?

Seems pretty clear, one is for frames without dedicated rack mounts where the load is hanging off a point remote from the point of maximum strength, The other is for frames with rack mounts, obviously fitted with a rack to carry the extra load which is distributed to a maximum strength point, the rear drop outs.

So if the rider weight is 355 lbs. and is carrying zero pounds of luggage, same difference?

No, because the extra 55lbs is not carried at the rear dropouts. Think of it this way, 55lbs load on the rear rack goes down through the rack stays straight to the axle of the wheel, via the drop out. The stays from the rack to the seat stay just stop the rack moving around. 55lbs extra rider weight could impinge on the frame at the seat, the pedals or handlebars.

Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up.

+1.

If rider weight is really a concern, you should check the testing conditions for the category. I think there are some drops involved in the testing, so if the rider avoids that, they can ride something that isn't rated for their weight

This is not SNARK FORUMS. Say something constructive, or keep a lid on it.

Thank you, appreciate that.

I was not responding to you. Nor was I snarky. If your ego is bruised it’s not my fault. I suggest you follow your own advice.

OP may be feeling a little defensive right now. He's started 15 threads in the past two weeks related to his fear that at 350# he's going to squash a bike. It doesn't seem to matter that 400+ pounders in Clydes have tried to reassure him. My very constructive input is "buy a bike, go for a ride." :thumb:

You're my biggest fan!

Maybe not "biggest" but probably most loyal.:thumb: Wearing thin though, even for the most empathetic of us.

Why is your empathy evaporating?

Why bother posting "Does to me as well."?

Well, in the course of your 15 threads, you've fretted about the frame, the stem, the seatpost, the tires, the brakes, the wheels.... Is the next question going to be bottle cage bolts? Or heavy duty bar tape? At some point (past, present or future) folks may suspect trolling. We surely wouldn't want that! :rolleyes::troll:

But how does my quest for knowledge and my thread topics constitute trolling? (You counted 15, correct?)

I believe you just made the Iggy List, bye bye.

Thanks for the info. Will update mine as well.

It’s the equivalent of +1, which means “I agree with you.” I edited my post to try to relieve your unwarranted butt hurt.