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ApolloSoyuz1975 06-12-16 04:11 PM

Not sure if this has been posted yet... anybody in a position to rescue this one?

https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/5590964250.html

mountaindave 06-12-16 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by RobbieTunes (Post 18839266)
One heck of a build, and one of those you take a look at as you ride up, and realize that passing this bike may not be the best idea.
The build level is often a dead giveaway of a serious rider.

Thanks! Not sure how serious I am, but I will using it in a triathlon sprint next weekend. This has been a bucket list item for a couple of years so when the frame popped up I figured I might as well go C/V. I'm not a swimmer so I don't expect to be competitive. But damn I'm going to look good on the bike! ;)

fleslider 06-12-16 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by ApolloSoyuz1975 (Post 18840130)
Not sure if this has been posted yet... anybody in a position to rescue this one?

https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/5590964250.html


There are so many things wrong with it..please some save the MV!

texaspandj 06-12-16 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by ApolloSoyuz1975 (Post 18840130)
Not sure if this has been posted yet... anybody in a position to rescue this one?

https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/5590964250.html

Rescue is the first word that comes to mind. Still proves you can make an Ironman into anything and install a kickstand.

Here's one in Texas. Exactly my size. However not my price, which is currently has to be free or I'm not buying it.
VTG CENTURION Black "Dave Scott" Road Bike

seypat 06-12-16 09:45 PM

I"ll take a look at the one in Richmond. There is/was also a red and white one in RVA that was even worse.

jetboy 06-13-16 01:38 AM

this deserves a larger print- "Don't think, Feel..."

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...5&d=1465708270

zs3889 06-14-16 11:39 PM

I bought 56 cm Miami Vice frameset off ebay quite a while ago and it has been sitting in my room ever since. I'm finally finding some spare time and starting to build it up with the Shimano 105 groupset that I had laying around. The cassette that I have is in pretty bad shape (see below) and I'm not going to bother with overhauling it. I plan on buying a new Shimano cassette and I was wondering if the 1050 shifter is going to work with a 7- or 8-speed cassette. If I remember correctly, the Miami Vice has a 6-speed cassette, RD, and DT shifter. I'm mostly building it to ride to work and I'm thinking a 7-speed 12-28 should work (that's the setup I have for my current daily anyway) or 12-31 might even be better since I live in a hilly area.

I'm looking at this:

https://www.amazon.com/Shimano-CS-HG...ssette+7+speed

and this:

https://www.amazon.com/Shimano-Speed...ssette+7+speed

I just gotta find out if they would work with the 1050 groupset before I buy one.


There is also an area on the top tube where the clear coat is almost nonexistant. Is there a way to apply a layer of clear coat to protect the paint and also restore the glossiness?

Lastly, I'm also looking for a shorter reach stem to put on this bike, preferably 60 mm. Let me know what you got!


Some pics:

http://i.imgur.com/QuiJYcu.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KzgXDfD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/x5mEmQ7.jpg


Thanks in advance!

rccardr 06-15-16 06:09 AM

Your 105 derailleurs will actually work very well with, up to, and including a 10 speed system if you are using the correct friction front and index rear down tube shifters. Never tried it with STI's, but in theory at least the rear one should be OK.

A standard 105 series 1050 RD will handle up to a 28 tooth rear cog on an Ironman frame; to use a larger rear cog I'd suggest using one of the many Deore RD's out there, particularly the 600 and 700 series ones that go well cosmetically with 105 pieces.

3speedslow 06-15-16 06:11 AM

That is a freewheel, not a cassette. Good looking Ironman. Is the seatpost stuck or just lowered down into the seat tube for movement?

clearcoat could be something to do but I will let the paint experts chime in for the definitive response.

texaspandj 06-15-16 06:29 AM

Congratulations, WOW nice looking Miami Vice. Definitely worth any investment you put into it. I have a shorter stem that is black, it's yours if you want it. Pm me.
That is a screw on freewheel not a cassette. So if you're gonna use the same wheels you'll need a freewheel removal tool and a screw on freewheel instead of the cassette type you posted from amazon. And a 7 speed will definitely work however you will have to put it in friction mode not SIS on the down tube shifters if the shifters are 6 speed. Keep us posted.

johnlink 06-15-16 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by zs3889 (Post 18846122)
I bought 56 cm Miami Vice frameset off ebay quite a while ago and it has been sitting in my room ever since. I'm finally finding some spare time and starting to build it up with the Shimano 105 groupset that I had laying around. The cassette that I have is in pretty bad shape (see below) and I'm not going to bother with overhauling it. I plan on buying a new Shimano cassette and I was wondering if the 1050 shifter is going to work with a 7- or 8-speed cassette. If I remember correctly, the Miami Vice has a 6-speed cassette, RD, and DT shifter. I'm mostly building it to ride to work and I'm thinking a 7-speed 12-28 should work (that's the setup I have for my current daily anyway) or 12-31 might even be better since I live in a hilly area.

I'm looking at this:

https://www.amazon.com/Shimano-CS-HG...ssette+7+speed

and this:

https://www.amazon.com/Shimano-Speed...ssette+7+speed


As others have already said, you need a freewheel for that hub, not a cassette. I have a Shimano freewheel (not cassette) with 13 15 17 19 21 24 28 teeth. I bought it new February 19th of this year and used it through April, so it's almost new. Interested? I'm in Manhattan.

By the way, are you planning to have the chainwheels on the left side of the bike?

mountaindave 06-15-16 07:53 AM

7 speed freewheels are still very easy to find cheaply. Shimano still makes them in the range you need. If you cruise eBay, 7 speed shifters come up from time to time. Create a search then save it to get updates. I have found old shifters as part of a group or incomplete group, often from people who are just resellers and don't know what they have. They can be pricy given their age. Or you can just go 7s friction.

If you're mostly commuting, you can get a new 6s 14-28 freewheel for cheap. I would spring for a 38t chainring to get a bit lower gearing and you're good to go - nice even spacing in the FW. Think about the last time you really needed that 12t sprocket... Unless you're in beast mode I'm guessing you'll likely spend most of you're time in the 52 and the 16t or 18t sprockets on the flats.

zs3889 06-15-16 09:49 AM

Thanks for all your amazing responses and offers! I actually posted some photos on here when I first got the frame but never had the spare time to really sit down and build it up.



Originally Posted by rccardr (Post 18846394)
A standard 105 series 1050 RD will handle up to a 28 tooth rear cog on an Ironman frame; to use a larger rear cog I'd suggest using one of the many Deore RD's out there, particularly the 600 and 700 series ones that go well cosmetically with 105 pieces.

I'm hoping to keep 105 RD as well so if it won't work with anything above 28 tooth, I'll just stick with 28 as my largest rear cog.



Originally Posted by 3speedslow (Post 18846399)
That is a freewheel, not a cassette. Good looking Ironman. Is the seatpost stuck or just lowered down into the seat tube for movement?

Thanks for the correction. I can never remember the difference between the two. The seatpost is not stuck. In fact, it's the opposite of stuck. It's all greased up so it doesn't have any friction to the seat tube and just slides to the bottom.



Originally Posted by texaspandj (Post 18846429)
Congratulations, WOW nice looking Miami Vice. Definitely worth any investment you put into it. I have a shorter stem that is black, it's yours if you want it. Pm me.
That is a screw on freewheel not a cassette. So if you're gonna use the same wheels you'll need a freewheel removal tool and a screw on freewheel instead of the cassette type you posted from amazon. And a 7 speed will definitely work however you will have to put it in friction mode not SIS on the down tube shifters if the shifters are 6 speed. Keep us posted.

Thanks for your offer! I'm hoping to keep the stem, handlebar, and seatpost in silver but I'll definitely hit you up if I change my mind! So you're saying in order to pair the 105 shifter and RD I have with a 7 speed freewheel, I'll have to operate it in friction mode? Is that because the shifter has only up to 6 clicks?



Originally Posted by johnlink (Post 18846597)
As others have already said, you need a freewheel for that hub, not a cassette. I have a Shimano freewheel (not cassette) with 13 15 17 19 21 24 28 teeth. I bought it new February 19th of this year and used it through April, so it's almost new. Interested? I'm in Manhattan.

By the way, are you planning to have the chainwheels on the left side of the bike?

Thanks for the offer! I'll shoot you a pm. Good catch. I thought that photo looked a little weird until I realized I had put the rear wheel incorrectly. It was only for the photo though.



Originally Posted by mountaindave (Post 18846621)
7 speed freewheels are still very easy to find cheaply. Shimano still makes them in the range you need. If you cruise eBay, 7 speed shifters come up from time to time. Create a search then save it to get updates. I have found old shifters as part of a group or incomplete group, often from people who are just resellers and don't know what they have. They can be pricy given their age. Or you can just go 7s friction.

If you're mostly commuting, you can get a new 6s 14-28 freewheel for cheap. I would spring for a 38t chainring to get a bit lower gearing and you're good to go - nice even spacing in the FW. Think about the last time you really needed that 12t sprocket... Unless you're in beast mode I'm guessing you'll likely spend most of you're time in the 52 and the 16t or 18t sprockets on the flats.

Thanks for the suggestion. Like I said, I live in a hilly area so my daily commute is barely (~20%) on flats. I'm in the 42 (front) all the time with larger sprocket going uphill and smaller sprocket going downhill (12-28). I'm thinking 6 speed 14-28 should work. I much prefer index shifting than friction for rear derailleur.

texaspandj 06-15-16 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by zs3889 (Post 18846969)
Thanks for your offer! I'm hoping to keep the stem, handlebar, and seatpost in silver but I'll definitely hit you up if I change my mind! So you're saying in order to pair the 105 shifter and RD I have with a 7 speed freewheel, I'll have to operate it in friction mode? Is that because the shifter has only up to 6 clicks?

Thanks for the suggestion. Like I said, I live in a hilly area so my daily commute is barely (~20%) on flats. I'm in the 42 (front) all the time with larger sprocket going uphill and smaller sprocket going downhill (12-28). I'm thinking 6 speed 14-28 should work. I much prefer index shifting than friction for rear derailleur.

Yes, assuming the shifters are 6 speed, you'll have to use friction mode for 7 speed.

Nothing wrong with keeping it 6 speed. In fact that freewheel may clean up nice with WD 40 and a toothbrush however I believe that's a 13-24 tooth. At which point you can assess if you need to order a new screw on 6 speed SIS compatible freewheel with those shifters or get a set of 7 speed shifters and a 7 speed screw on freewheel to keep the index shifting.

Have fun and good luck.

rjhammett 06-15-16 07:46 PM

Make sure you have the correct size seatpost. It is a 27.0mm.


Originally Posted by zs3889 (Post 18846969)
The seatpost is not stuck. In fact, it's the opposite of stuck. It's all greased up so it doesn't have any friction to the seat tube and just slides to the bottom.


texaspandj 06-16-16 04:01 AM


Originally Posted by rjhammett (Post 18848494)
Make sure you have the correct size seatpost. It is a 27.0mm.

Yes true, however 3 of the 5 I have are 27.2 seatpost with no problems.

texaspandj 06-16-16 05:41 AM

Here's the big brother to the Ironman. And my favorite color Ironman as we've seen at least one Ironman in this color scheme. I can't make out the size though. Possibly a 56. Either way more than fair price.
Vintage Centurion Prestige Road Bike Bicycle

rjhammett 06-16-16 05:59 AM

Interesting. I have owned three '87 'Miami Vices' and they were all 27.0. A 27.2 wouldn't fit in any of them.


Originally Posted by texaspandj (Post 18848986)
Yes true, however 3 of the 5 I have are 27.2 seatpost with no problems.


johnlink 06-16-16 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by zs3889 (Post 18846969)
Thanks for the offer! I'll shoot you a pm.

Here is the full list of Suntour parts I will be selling, all of which were original parts on my Centurion Ironman and now replaced with Dura Ace components:

brake levers and hoods
hub on Mavic front wheel with skewer (bearings replaced late 2015 or early 2016)
rear hub and skewer (no wheel)
front and rear brakes
rear derailleur (7-speed)
front derailleur
front and rear shifters
crankset 175-mm 52/42

I will also be selling Suntour brake levers and hoods bought NOS 3/1/13.

mountaindave 06-16-16 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by texaspandj (Post 18848986)
Yes true, however 3 of the 5 I have are 27.2 seatpost with no problems.

I have a 27.2 in mine currently, no issue.

triitout 06-16-16 07:58 PM

zs3889, I switched the 1050 down tube shifters to 1055 shifters found on eBay. These are designed for 7 speed index shifting (7 clicks!). It took me a while to find decent ones at a fair price, so good luck.

fleslider 06-17-16 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by johnlink (Post 18849465)
Here is the full list of Suntour parts I will be selling, all of which were original parts on my Centurion Ironman and now replaced with Dura Ace components:

brake levers and hoods
hub on Mavic front wheel with skewer (bearings replaced late 2015 or early 2016)
rear hub and skewer (no wheel)
front and rear brakes
rear derailleur (7-speed)
front derailleur
front and rear shifters
crankset 175-mm 52/42

I will also be selling Suntour brake levers and hoods bought NOS 3/1/13.

Are these Suntour GPX parts? from a 1989 Expert?

fleslider 06-17-16 11:37 AM

Anybody got a Shimano 600 Rear Derailieur from a 85 Ironman they want to part with. the Dark anodized one.

This girl has a 600 Ultegra unit but i want to go back to stock on it.

https://vivalaslider.files.wordpress...9-46.jpg?w=800

And did the 85 have Dark anodized 600 Brake levers or was that 1986? most of all the pics ive seen of the 1985's dont have the Anodized ones.

johnlink 06-17-16 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by fleslider (Post 18852585)
Are these Suntour GPX parts? from a 1989 Expert?

Yes, except for the second pair of brake levers I bought as NOS 3/1/13.

CORRECTION: The front wheel is an Araya CTL-370, not a Mavic.

Here's a picture of the Ironman taken July 24, 2014, with the components-for-sale mentioned previously:

RobbieTunes 06-17-16 08:34 PM

win

Originally Posted by jetboy (Post 18841118)
this deserves a larger print- "Don't think, Feel..."

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...5&d=1465708270



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