Amazing Holland frame!
I just ran into the sweetest couple in their 80's who met at a bicycle club in the San Diego area and have been together ever since, with a life that centered around cycling. The husband, Tom, has gotten to a point in his life where he isn't able to ride anymore and they sold their entire collection. I was lucky enough to get this bike. It is a mid 80's Holland, painted by Joe Bell. I have never seen a steel frame that is not lugged. Tom also had a Ti Holland and told me that he much preferred this steel bike over the Ti bike, due to the smooth ride that we all know vintage steel gives us. It is a 57cm, ctc, and just beautiful. The paint, the craftsmanship....I dearly wish it were a 59 or 60, but it is too small for me and too big for my wife, so I have to find it a new home. It has a CF fork as well. I know that C&V bikes are "worth what someone will pay"....but does anyone have a starting point for this beauty?
And, should I take it down to the frame, and sell just the frame, or leave it built with this awesome Campy Record 8 speed group? Any advice is greatly appreciated! And any offers are welcome! https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9317c2ba20.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b424b03638.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fe57181a7d.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f6f546e6cf.jpg |
Fillet brazed bikes are pretty. Since you live in a large city which is a good market for used bikes, the advice in post 2 is spot on.
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa
(Post 21934604)
I would keep it together, clean it up, retape the bars in basic black, take the best pics I could manage in the spring when the snow clears and sell it locally.
And seriously consider a classic styled seatpost - that bike deserves better. |
Originally Posted by SurferRosa
(Post 21934604)
I would keep it together, clean it up, retape the bars in basic black, take the best pics I could manage in the spring when the snow clears and sell it locally.
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Originally Posted by bikemig
(Post 21934611)
Fillet brazed bikes are pretty. Since you live in a large city which is a good market for used bikes, the advice in post 2 is spot on.
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Originally Posted by thinktubes
(Post 21934865)
This.
And seriously consider a classic styled seatpost - that bike deserves better. |
I'm a big advocate of vintage bikes. I believe that bicycle technology reached it's "state of the art" around 1986. (Like a Stradivarius violin, string instruments haven't improved much over the last 500 years. The same is true with bicycles since 1986). This Holland bike is just as fast and beautiful to ride as anything made since. Be good. Have fun.
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Originally Posted by ramzilla
(Post 21934974)
I'm a big advocate of vintage bikes. I believe that bicycle technology reached it's "state of the art" around 1986. (Like a Stradivarius violin, string instruments haven't improved much over the last 500 years. The same is true with bicycles since 1986). This Holland bike is just as fast and beautiful to ride as anything made since. Be good. Have fun.
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Originally Posted by Mattdiano
(Post 21935004)
I wish it were my size so badly....I was sitting on it and my wife and i kept trying to justify...With a longer stem and an extended seatpost.... but I have learned my lesson about trying that! Unfortunately I am going to have to find her a new home! According to the original owner, it is an amazing smooth ride that he preferred over his Ti Holland.
check out this old POS https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7fccd768ec.jpg Don't worry. There's millions of old bikes out there. Make sure it fits perfectly before you buy one. Be good. Have fun. |
That is a very nice bike. Hard to say what to ask for it as that marque is uncommon and not as well recognized for its quality. I’m a big fan of 8 speed Campy. I would look for $800-$850 for complete bike but it might take a while to sell. Unfortunately, everyone wants a bike with clearance for big tires now so these bikes that can only fit 25’s don’t get the love they used to.
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I think this is an Athena group
That is a great looking bike Don't take less than $800 today Try for $1000 in the spring |
Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs
(Post 21936251)
That is a very nice bike. Hard to say what to ask for it as that marque is uncommon and not as well recognized for its quality. I’m a big fan of 8 speed Campy. I would look for $800-$850 for complete bike but it might take a while to sell. Unfortunately, everyone wants a bike with clearance for big tires now so these bikes that can only fit 25’s don’t get the love they used to.
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Originally Posted by jet sanchEz
(Post 21936828)
I think this is an Athena group
That is a great looking bike Don't take less than $800 today Try for $1000 in the spring |
Let's see the Somec!
The crank is definitely not Record Does it say "Record" on the brakes, shifters or derailleur? |
Originally Posted by jet sanchEz
(Post 21936909)
Let's see the Somec!
The crank is definitely not Record Does it say "Record" on the brakes, shifters or derailleur? And here is the Somec. Again, way too small for me! This is maybe Mirage? I have a weird one-off 9 speed Mirage group that is a lot like this one. Anyway, Delta brakes missing as I already pulled them off to start checking them out in-depth. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6bf2b41ce3.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...315f076e52.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5556e3ec12.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2f43ef7575.jpg |
Crank is C-Record gen 2, front derailleur very likely is as well, rear derailleur looks like Chorus, Ergopowers may be Record or Chorus, looks like the aluminum bodied gen 1, does the brake release mechanism have a spring? Seat post is C-Record but looks unusually dull in the picture.
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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs
(Post 21936251)
snip . . . Unfortunately, everyone wants a bike with clearance for big tires now so these bikes that can only fit 25’s don’t get the love they used to.
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Originally Posted by Mackers
(Post 21939021)
Crank is C-Record gen 2, front derailleur very likely is as well, rear derailleur looks like Chorus, Ergopowers may be Record or Chorus, looks like the aluminum bodied gen 1, does the brake release mechanism have a spring? Seat post is C-Record but looks unusually dull in the picture.
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