I suck at handling my bike... how to improve?
Hi,
I did very little cycling as a kid and now took it seriously at 27. By "seriously", I mean I commute (~20km) to work every day on a touring bike, train in a club on a race road bike, and tour (~2-3 days, 60-140km per day) on a touring bike (the one I commute on). I love it, every bit of it! There's just one thing: I suck at handling my bike, I mean by that the little things:
I know some of these are not useful and even dangerous, but being able to perform them means having better control of one's bike and that is both useful and very safe... I don't really know how to practice and what to do,... but being creeped out by things like that for a guy who rides over 1000km a month a kind of ridiculous... Thank you all... |
Go to an empty parking lot ... perhaps a shopping centre parking lot after hours, and practice riding in different ways. You'll be out of the way of traffic so you can pedal along and then sit up and have a look behind you, trying hard to ride in a straight line while you do. You can ride one handed and figure out where you need to hold the handlebars in order to hold the bicycle steady.
Go with a friend and practice handing each other bottles and things. |
Technical mountain bike climbing and descending. If you don't learn fast you'll hurt yourself. Nothing is a better teacher than pain.
Well ok there are other ways as well but MTB is just so... Manly "Starting with the left foot on the pedal" - Well, start doing it. Consciously Start with your left foot rather than your right foot. You can't learn without repetition. "Look behind me" - press your thigh(s) against the top tube with the pedals level. That will give you a surprising amount of stability and you can do pretty much whatever you want on the bike after that. Also works if you feel scared on fast descents. "Ride one-handed/Ride no-handed" - I prefer not to do these since even though I can do both it feels uncomfortable. Sometimes I have to measure my blood sugar on the go so I have to do helluva lot more than just ride one handed or no handed but its never fun. But repetition. Start doing those things for short stretches at a time with a lot of repetition and it'll come to you. "Trackstand" - Why do you feel you need this skill? I don't. I have never felt I need to know how to trackstand. I see no use for it. "Start in a steep slope" - Obviously a smaller gear but with the upper pedal in the 11 o'clock position with your upper body bent really low down towards the handlebars torque yourself to movement and don't worry about clipping in before you have momentum. You have to bend forward more when it's steeper. The bending might lose you power but it keeps you from doing a wheelie too easily. "Release one-hand to look better behind" - again thighs against the top tube for stability and just do it. Concentrate on riding straight while doing this. But again, why is this a skill worth learnig? You have a turning head dont you? |
I agree with Machka - head to a large parking lot on a Sunday morning when it will be empty. Ride figure 8s and then ride figure 8s one handed. I have found that holding the bars somewhat loosely seems to smooth out the track. Riding one handed is helpful in signaling turns so it is useful to practice. Same with reaching and replacing water bottles. As for looking behind, so what's wrong with a mirror? Whatever you are uncomfortable doing, practice that at a time and place where there is no pressure.
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Steep uphill-
sometimes it makes more sense to start downhill-and U-turn(not always possible) In any case- uphill-put it in a LOW Gear before getting on -just shift twisting the pedals with your hand-lift back wheel etc No one feels comfortable twisting 180 degrees-except perhaps very young flexible people(women seem better at that) some folks bend down and look UNDER their arm to look backwards-older folks bad necks etc. |
Trackstanding seems more of a "trick" move than something you actually need to use in lieu of just stepping off and putting a foot down. Riding no-handed can be useful but ask yourself how many times are you in a situation where you really need both hands to do something and stopping for a moment would be a hassle? Everyone's experience is different, but in my case I rarely need to do it. The other things you mention seem more practical than these two and my advice would be to spend your time working on those and leave trackstanding and no-handed riding for a later time.
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You can't really track stand unless you are on a fixed-gear bike. Are you?
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Thank for all the answers already :)
Originally Posted by elcruxio
(Post 16275979)
Technical mountain bike climbing and descending. If you don't learn fast you'll hurt yourself. Nothing is a better teacher than pain.
Well ok there are other ways as well but MTB is just so... Manly "Starting with the left foot on the pedal" - Well, start doing it. Consciously Start with your left foot rather than your right foot. You can't learn without repetition. This was more to show how much I sucked :)
Originally Posted by elcruxio
(Post 16275979)
"Look behind me"
- press your thigh(s) against the top tube with the pedals level. That will give you a surprising amount of stability and you can do pretty much whatever you want on the bike after that. Also works if you feel scared on fast descents.
Originally Posted by elcruxio
(Post 16275979)
"Ride one-handed/Ride no-handed"
- I prefer not to do these since even though I can do both it feels uncomfortable. Sometimes I have to measure my blood sugar on the go so I have to do helluva lot more than just ride one handed or no handed but its never fun. But repetition. Start doing those things for short stretches at a time with a lot of repetition and it'll come to you. Once again, I don't mean to be an acrobatic hero,... but as shown in my example, when a fellow cyclist stretches out his hand for a handshake, I don't mean to be impolite...
Originally Posted by elcruxio
(Post 16275979)
"Trackstand"
- Why do you feel you need this skill? I don't. I have never felt I need to know how to trackstand. I see no use for it.
Originally Posted by elcruxio
(Post 16275979)
"Start in a steep slope"
- Obviously a smaller gear but with the upper pedal in the 11 o'clock position with your upper body bent really low down towards the handlebars torque yourself to movement and don't worry about clipping in before you have momentum. You have to bend forward more when it's steeper. The bending might lose you power but it keeps you from doing a wheelie too easily.
Originally Posted by elcruxio
(Post 16275979)
"Release one-hand to look better behind"
- again thighs against the top tube for stability and just do it. Concentrate on riding straight while doing this. But again, why is this a skill worth learnig? You have a turning head dont you?
Originally Posted by berner
(Post 16276587)
I agree with Machka - head to a large parking lot on a Sunday morning when it will be empty. Ride figure 8s and then ride figure 8s one handed. I have found that holding the bars somewhat loosely seems to smooth out the track. Riding one handed is helpful in signaling turns so it is useful to practice. Same with reaching and replacing water bottles. As for looking behind, so what's wrong with a mirror? Whatever you are uncomfortable doing, practice that at a time and place where there is no pressure.
Originally Posted by phoebeisis
(Post 16276678)
Steep uphill-
sometimes it makes more sense to start downhill-and U-turn(not always possible) In any case- uphill-put it in a LOW Gear before getting on -just shift twisting the pedals with your hand-lift back wheel etc No one feels comfortable twisting 180 degrees-except perhaps very young flexible people(women seem better at that) some folks bend down and look UNDER their arm to look backwards-older folks bad necks etc.
Originally Posted by Cyclosaurus
(Post 16276729)
Trackstanding seems more of a "trick" move than something you actually need to use in lieu of just stepping off and putting a foot down. Riding no-handed can be useful but ask yourself how many times are you in a situation where you really need both hands to do something and stopping for a moment would be a hassle? Everyone's experience is different, but in my case I rarely need to do it. The other things you mention seem more practical than these two and my advice would be to spend your time working on those and leave trackstanding and no-handed riding for a later time.
Originally Posted by prooftheory
(Post 16276744)
You can't really track stand unless you are on a fixed-gear bike. Are you?
I really have no intention of going for that one... but c'mon, it's cool :) |
To the OP......First relax and let your brain's natural ability to learn how to ride with something between your legs. Mankind has ridden horses since forever and that information is in our brain to transfer to your bicycles. Believe it or not. Let the bike become an extension of you and your wishes......naturally.
As an example......Everytime I over think what I'm doing on my bike I crash. When I pay attention to my surroundings the bike just does the right things that keep me safe. |
The 'need' for Spud clipless pedals may be a bit premature ,
if the basics of starting off securely are less practiced.. I'm on the other end, been there done that , went back to platform pedals and regular shoes , shelving the Spud shoes and Pedals.. get some Grippy wide platform pedals .. double sided. Learning to one hand steer with your left hand free, gives you the ability to use a standard hand signal to indicate your intention to turn . |
I think "Spud shoes" may be the best autocorrect I have ever read.
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
(Post 16276958)
To the OP......First relax and let your brain's natural ability to learn how to ride with something between your legs.
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Time in the saddle will result in improvements all around.
For myself, I ride with a rearview mirror on my helmet. It is one of the most essential pieces of safety gear I have. |
Practice.
Trackstanding is more of a cool skill to have. Bunny hops are actually useful at times. |
Riding no-hands is just a matter of practice, get up a decent speed, scoot back on the saddle sit straight up and steer with your hips. Relax a little so you don't over-steer - if you do start over-steering then grab the bars again. Some of the hip movement is counter-steering so don't overthink it, just practice and do what works.
Some bikes are more difficult than others due to the headset, cables, trail etc but mostly not. Start with just a few seconds and build up from there. |
Ride your mt bike. Great crossover skills. Get a mirror. Practice.
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I would add bunnyhopping to your list.
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Originally Posted by elcruxio
(Post 16275979)
Technical mountain bike climbing and descending. If you don't learn fast you'll hurt yourself. Nothing is a better teacher than pain.
Originally Posted by elcruxio
(Post 16275979)
"Starting with the left foot on the pedal"
- Well, start doing it. Consciously Start with your left foot rather than your right foot. You can't learn without repetition.
Originally Posted by elcruxio
(Post 16275979)
"Ride one-handed/Ride no-handed"
- I prefer not to do these since even though I can do both it feels uncomfortable. Sometimes I have to measure my blood sugar on the go so I have to do helluva lot more than just ride one handed or no handed but its never fun. But repetition. Start doing those things for short stretches at a time with a lot of repetition and it'll come to you.
Originally Posted by elcruxio
(Post 16275979)
"Trackstand"
- Why do you feel you need this skill? I don't. I have never felt I need to know how to trackstand. I see no use for it.
Originally Posted by elcruxio
(Post 16275979)
"Start in a steep slope"
- Obviously a smaller gear but with the upper pedal in the 11 o'clock position with your upper body bent really low down towards the handlebars torque yourself to movement and don't worry about clipping in before you have momentum. You have to bend forward more when it's steeper. The bending might lose you power but it keeps you from doing a wheelie too easily. |
Originally Posted by prooftheory
(Post 16276744)
You can't really track stand unless you are on a fixed-gear bike. Are you?
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
(Post 16276958)
To the OP......First relax and let your brain's natural ability to learn how to ride with something between your legs. Mankind has ridden horses since forever and that information is in our brain to transfer to your bicycles. Believe it or not. Let the bike become an extension of you and your wishes......naturally.
As an example......Everytime I over think what I'm doing on my bike I crash. When I pay attention to my surroundings the bike just does the right things that keep me safe. The first time I rode on ThickSlick tires, I could feel their shifty movement over the road's surface (i.e., they felt like they were beginning to slide out from under me). I knew that reacting too early to that small "floating" feeling could potentially make it worse, so I just kept riding vigilantly checking the way ahead on the ride home, and lo and behold, over various sketchy surfaces, I was able to ride home with no scrapes/bruises/wounded pride from laying my bike down. The same applies with motorcycles...sometimes you just have to "let go"--in the sense of keeping your reactionary feelings to a minimum--until they're absolutely needed. With experience, you gain the wisdom to know the difference between a slight drift of the tires due to uneven surface contact, and a full-on loss of traction. Keep on riding, @SharpHeel. Don't sweat the little details, and don't bother comparing yourself to other riders, unless your primary goal is to race. Learn not only how to do the maneuvers you described in the OP, but whether or not they really apply to you, or are just superfluous. The best piece of advice I can give you is not to glue your eyes to anything besides the road ahead for more than a second; two seconds at maximum. Race car drivers, scientific studies, and lots of experienced bike riders will tell you that [eventually] your vehicle goes where your eyes go. |
Originally Posted by Keith99
(Post 16277336)
Wrong.
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One thing I see many riders do that I think is a mistake is when starting thinking they have to clip in right away. The result is 1/2 a turn of the pedals and then nothing more to keep the speed up. That often has a rider wobbling all over the place.
If instead one soft pedals to keep a little speed it is easy to clip in. That is a huge help starting on the weak foot and also for starting on a hill. |
Originally Posted by cyccommute
(Post 16277333)
I'll add one little mountain bike trick. Apply the brakes. Push down on the pedals and release the brakes at the same time as you start to move the bike forward and you backwards onto the saddle.
*Minus the pedals, of course. It has to do with preventing a backwards rolling motion for easier starting momentum...Cycco, you know what I mean. :thumb: |
Originally Posted by prooftheory
(Post 16277359)
Maybe you have a different definition of track standing than I. For me, if you can't do it going down hill, without touching the brakes, it ain't track standing.
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Originally Posted by deeth82
(Post 16277376)
This is also a trick-of-the-trade for motorcyclists*...good one! :)
*Minus the pedals, of course. It has to do with preventing a backwards rolling motion for easier starting momentum...Cycco, you know what I mean. :thumb: |
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