Living Car Free...The reality.
In a little less than a month I'm going to make 1200 mile journey from the Midwest to Colorado and then back. I'm taking a one week vacation from work with a friend. This is a fishing vacation where there will be some camping involved and few nights in a motel. By the time it is all done, I will probably have put 3000+ miles on my truck going there and back plus driving to different public access points on the river to fish. Some of which take a 4 x 4 to get to.
I have 9 days to get this all done. I will be hauling 2 coolers, 2 tents, a camp stove, lanterns, fishing gear, change of clothes etc. The back of my full size truck will be more or less 3/4 packed full with our gear. If I was living car free, how would I accomplish this journey in 9 days and carry all the gear I need for my vacation? Renting a car/truck isn't an option. Their business hours of operation don't work with my schedule. |
Are you really asking a question here, or just pointing out how your choice and their choice have differences that must be dealt with? I mean, don't you already KNOW the answer to this "postulation"?
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Originally Posted by prj71
(Post 20464186)
In a little less than a month I'm going to make 1200 mile journey from the Midwest to Colorado and then back. I'm taking a one week vacation from work with a friend. This is a fishing vacation where there will be some camping involved and few nights in a motel.
By the time it is all done, I will probably have put 3000+ miles on my truck going there and back plus driving to different public access points on the river to fish. Some of which take a 4 x 4 to get to. I have 9 days to get this all done. I will be hauling 2 coolers, 2 tents, a camp stove, lanterns, fishing gear, change of clothes etc. The back of my full size truck will be more or less 3/4 packed full with our gear. If I was living car free, how would I accomplish this journey in 9 days and carry all the gear I need for my vacation? Renting a car/truck isn't an option. Their business hours of operation don't work with my schedule.
Originally Posted by Juan Foote
(Post 20464230)
Are you really asking a question here, or just pointing out how your choice and their choice have differences that must be dealt with? I mean, don't you already KNOW the answer to this "postulation"?
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Originally Posted by Jim from Boston
(Post 20464240)
If you were LIving Car Free, you would be doing a different vacation...D'uh.
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IMO, it would go something like this, then. This is assuming you are actually car free, have a bike you wish to take.
Ask your work friend if he has a car he is willing to take. Next, look into train/bus to the location you want to go and consider a central camping spot that you can ride from and back to every day. I would probably consider ditching some of the equipment in that case. Theoretically you could look into a "service" like entity to take you there and pick you up. Enterprise and some taxi/limo services offer things like this, but am sure the cost over that distance would be pretty obscene. Rent a u-haul one way, twice, or a car. These above recommendations (once again) go on the assumption that you own a bike and have some experience at carrying goods with you. With a bit of slimming down and creative thinking about the "cooler" situation (or a trailer), the rest could be packed on racks and panniers. |
Originally Posted by Juan Foote
(Post 20464324)
IMO, it would go something like this, then. This is assuming you are actually car free, have a bike you wish to take.
Ask your work friend if he has a car he is willing to take. Next, look into train/bus to the location you want to go and consider a central camping spot that you can ride from and back to every day. I would probably consider ditching some of the equipment in that case. Theoretically you could look into a "service" like entity to take you there and pick you up. Enterprise and some taxi/limo services offer things like this, but am sure the cost over that distance would be pretty obscene. Rent a u-haul one way, twice, or a car. These above recommendations (once again) go on the assumption that you own a bike and have some experience at carrying goods with you. With a bit of slimming down and creative thinking about the "cooler" situation (or a trailer), the rest could be packed on racks and panniers. |
Living Car Free...The reality.
Originally Posted by Jim from Boston
(Post 20464240)
If you were Living Car Free, you would be doing a different vacation...D'uh.
Originally Posted by prj71
(Post 20464287)
But I like trout fishing and camping in the western states. That is vacation to me. Since I don't live there I need a feasible way to get there and back to do that which I like to do within a 9 day period.
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So there are some things people want/like to do that are not practical without a car.
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Originally Posted by prj71
(Post 20464186)
If I was living car free, how would I accomplish this journey in 9 days and carry all the gear I need for my vacation?
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Originally Posted by Jim from Boston
(Post 20464408)
Living Car Free...The reality.So I guess the title of your thread is misleading…Living Car Free is not a reality. :twitchy:
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 20464446)
So there are some things people want/like to do that are not practical without a car.
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Hmmm...too bad about the lack of car rental agencies.
I've always rented a big SUV for trips like that. The same was true when my family owned a vehicle. So, I'm not sure what this has to do with LCF or the stated subforum topic. Arguably road trips are neither everyday activities nor are possible without a vehicle. |
Originally Posted by prj71
(Post 20464663)
Correct. But there is a segment of the population that thinks
I don't know of anyone who's car free that thinks that everyone else should also go car free. It's a personal choice they make for themselves. We get it, you chose differently. Good for you. |
Originally Posted by wipekitty
(Post 20464676)
Hmmm...too bad about the lack of car rental agencies.
I've always rented a big SUV for trips like that. The same was true when my family owned a vehicle. So, I'm not sure what this has to do with LCF or the stated subforum topic. Arguably road trips are neither everyday activities nor are possible without a vehicle. |
Originally Posted by prj71
(Post 20464663)
But there is a segment of the population that thinks you should be able to do everything and go everywhere car free and don't see things from any other perspective.
I have taken numerous cycling trips out west where the only car usage was for grand transportation (taxis and shuttles) to and from airports. (One time I actually walked 3+ miles with all my gear to the airport when I couldn't get a cab early a.m.) My longest vacation was nearly 4 months. It started with a car ride of a few miles to a train station (toting lots of baggage) and ended when I pushed my bike up my mom's front lawn after having bicycled across the country and then some. |
No need to antagonize the LCF though some of them can be a little preachy though not as bad as the A&S crowd imo. If you wanted to LCF you would certainly need to make some adjustments I hesitate to say sacrifices. You could take a very fine fishing trip car free on a bicycle. Follow some river or canal and fish daily. Rivers tend to be flat along river valleys which is nice. You'd not only be car free you'd be living off the land which would be kinda cool and something some aspire to. You could otherwise get a folding bike and train or fly to your destination and make do with less stuff which is honorable. Nitpicking about the hours of rental places is very low honor and the hardcore lcf dont rent cars anyway, it negates the whole thing. Otherwise for back country stuff you'd need a mtn bike. No need to be angry about other peoples choices or take too seriously the few who criticize you for driving a gas guzzling truck and needing 2 tons of gear for a couple of days in the woods.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 20464702)
I have taken numerous cycling trips out west where the only car usage was for grand transportation (taxis and shuttles) to and from airports. (One time I actually walked 3+ miles with all my gear to the airport when I couldn't get a cab early a.m.) My longest vacation was nearly 4 months. It started with a car ride of a few miles to a train station (toting lots of baggage) and ended when I pushed my bike up my mom's front lawn after having bicycled across the country and then some.
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Originally Posted by TheLibrarian
(Post 20464758)
. You could take a very fine fishing trip car free on a bicycle.
Follow some river or canal and fish daily. Rivers tend to be flat along river valleys which is nice. |
Originally Posted by prj71
(Post 20464691)
I have 4 car rental agencies nearby. For this trip I leave at 5am on Saturday and return home sometime late afternoon the following Sunday. That is outside of their normal business hours of operation.
I am by no means car free, but this seemed like the simplest idea. |
Originally Posted by katsup
(Post 20465243)
Start the rental on Friday, return it Monday. It will cost you an extra 2 days rental fee. Rental agencies near me have after hours drop off, you may still be able to return the call on Sunday using something like that. I'm willing to bet the car rental agency will even work with you for both the pickup and drop off for very little extra.
I am by no means car free, but this seemed like the simplest idea. To each their own, but I'm beginning to think that this thread is really a topic for Foo, rather than LCF? |
Originally Posted by prj71
(Post 20464663)
Correct. But there is a segment of the population that thinks you should be able to do everything and go everywhere car free and don't see things from any other perspective.
If you are insecure about your lifestyle and are seeking validation, I am sure you can find plenty of support here: https://www.google.ca/search?q=automotive+forums&oq=automotive+forums&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l3j0l2.9971j1j7&client=ms-android-motorola&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8 |
Originally Posted by prj71
(Post 20464799)
Sure. Maybe from my house to a local stream within 30 miles for a day trip only. I'm talking about a 3000+ mile round trip.
Not always the case. This spot here that I fished last year has zero roads along the river valley. It has one public access point that dead ends at the river. Just an option if one was really dedicated to car free fishing trips. |
Originally Posted by wipekitty
(Post 20465627)
To each their own, but I'm beginning to think that this thread is really a topic for Foo, rather than LCF? |
Originally Posted by prj71
(Post 20464691)
I have 4 car rental agencies nearby. For this trip I leave at 5am on Saturday and return home sometime late afternoon the following Sunday. That is outside of their normal business hours of operation.
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You could move to Colorado.
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