Originally Posted by seajaye
(Post 20780842)
Bump. I just put a deposit down for Bilenky to chop a bike in half. Those in PA will find out soon which bike it is. This is going to be a busy spring...
I'll probably try to borrow a friend's S&S case for France, but a few questions for those who have cases:
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If CJ doesn't borrow it, I hope to have my S&S bike ready by then and I'll need a case.
This is a reenactment of Stephen Bilenky working on CJ's bike: https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...07cb520e0a.png |
Why not buy a bike in Paris? All that lumber, is it really worth it? In most large cities, you can hire bikes on virtually every street corner. In the country, have a look at this: leboncoin . If you can't read or speak French, just type the bike brand you can't in the search box, or ask someone for help.
You can get some decent bikes, especially after several weeks when the locals have worked out asking a high price does not mean a sale: bianchi ads, Ile de France . Alternatively go to a bike shop, there are still plenty here. |
Originally Posted by avole
(Post 20792704)
Why not buy a bike in Paris? All that lumber, is it really worth it? In most large cities, you can hire bikes on virtually every street corner. In the country, have a look at this: leboncoin . If you can't read or speak French, just type the bike brand you can't in the search box, or ask someone for help.
You can get some decent bikes, especially after several weeks when the locals have worked out asking a high price does not mean a sale: bianchi ads, Ile de France . Alternatively go to a bike shop, there are still plenty here. https://www.leboncoin.fr/velos/1549951464.htm/ In fact, now that I see that ad, I'm having second thoughts. Anyone do PBP on a 40 lb single speed bike? |
Yes, with a big tangle of onions hanging off the bars too. Or maybe that was the 40 pound hirondelle retro-direct.
There are lots of crazy bikes on PBP. I really liked the racing tandem trike. And I got hate-dropped by a woman riding a 3 speed commuter bike while she was interviewing other riders. In my defense, that was before the beer I drank at the control a few miles before had fully kicked in. |
Originally Posted by iTrod
(Post 20790952)
I own a Co-Motion case which I have yet to use. You are welcome to borrow it CJ.
I have a work trip planned to Seattle in July so I am planning on bringing my bike to get practice packing-unpacking, etc. Shooting to ride Seattle To Portland in one day so maybe I'll get good PBP training for riding with thousands of other people and dealing with crowded controles and such... |
Originally Posted by unterhausen
(Post 20711028)
nice that it has convenient handles to throw it with.
Some people insist that soft cases get treated better by baggage handlers. Either way, the anti-crush posts that S&S sells seem like a good idea. |
Originally Posted by unterhausen
(Post 20709712)
give up and get an orucase airport ninja https://www.orucase.com/products/the...le-travel-case
Velonews has a good review here. In addition you can rent it to try out, and buy it if you like it. Have you had experience with it and if so can you share a few more thoughts? |
I bought a travel bike on the local CL last weekend that came with the hard suitcase. Thanks again BF for convincing me that I need another bike. It's the old seven "touring" frame that has fender/rack eyelets and clearance for 32c tires. If my wife lets me go to PBP this year I'll add some beefier wheels, fenders, rack, lights, and should be good-to-go.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...97e05d8121.jpg |
that looks like a really nice bike
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It's by far the nicest bike I've ever had. If it works out I may be able to get rid of some of my other bikes. Theoretically speaking of course.
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Now the universe knows you have had this N-1 thought so I think it's inevitable. You promised
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My wife did ask me which bike I was going to get rid of when I went to go pick up this one, so it wasn't really my own idea.
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Originally Posted by kingston
(Post 20864175)
I bought a travel bike on the local CL last weekend that came with the hard suitcase. Thanks again BF for convincing me that I need another bike. It's the old seven "touring" frame that has fender/rack eyelets and clearance for 32c tires. If my wife lets me go to PBP this year I'll add some beefier wheels, fenders, rack, lights, and should be good-to-go.
... Are you new to S&S bikes? If so, just about every bit of advice I could provide is already included in previous posts in this thread above. |
Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN
(Post 20865401)
Are you new to S&S bikes? If so, just about every bit of advice I could provide is already included in previous posts in this thread above.
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Originally Posted by downtube42
(Post 20642928)
Maybe that explains it.
I saw a guy flying from Portland to Dallas the other day who was wearing two cowboy hats, one on top of the other. A few days later, on the return flight, there he was again in the same getup. I suppose he was keeping them safe from the baggage handlers. Stealing Wheelbarrows - Tales That Sway Maybe he's smuggling hair. |
Sweet! Although its funny a compact frame is called old, which makes me feel old. I may need to get an S&S bike at some point. I fly a Cessna 172, which is basically like a Volkswagen Beatle with wings. Its very difficult to put a bike in there to go fly and ride. A bike with couplings might allow me to stow it in the rather small cargo area without it coming over the seat and poking me in the back of the head. Might even allow me to take two bikes.
How much would it cost to covert a conventional steel or Ti frame to one with couplings? |
Originally Posted by kingston
(Post 20865460)
This is my first S&S bike. I didn't realize I needed one before reading this thread. Thanks for all the tips. Really great to be able to learn from your experience.
I need to pull both crank arms off to get the bike into a case. I converted my crankset to self extracting bolts. But the self extracting mechanism fell of the bike somewhere in the middle of Iceland. Needless to say, when I went to pack up the bike to come home, I had to move the self extractor from one crank to the other with out the proper tools to do so. From now on, carrying a real crank puller, no more of this messing around trying to lighten the load. I have had to tweak a few spokes to re-true up a wheel upon reassembly, I assume you know how to use a spoke wrench? I have never had a coupler loosen on me while riding, but it has happened to others. Think about getting and carrying a small S&S wrench on PBP. I bought one of these to carry on day rides. Not an S&S wrench, but it will function as one. Shipped from China, expect it to take a month. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bicycle-Bik...-/172347087480 You are going to love that bike.
Originally Posted by orcanova
(Post 20865864)
Sweet! Although its funny a compact frame is called old, which makes me feel old. I may need to get an S&S bike at some point. I fly a Cessna 172, which is basically like a Volkswagen Beatle with wings. Its very difficult to put a bike in there to go fly and ride. A bike with couplings might allow me to stow it in the rather small cargo area without it coming over the seat and poking me in the back of the head. Might even allow me to take two bikes.
How much would it cost to covert a conventional steel or Ti frame to one with couplings? Bilenky can do Titanium frames. I have not had mine done, so I have no opinion on them. My bike is titanium | Bilenky Cycle Works But if it was me, I find unfolding my folding bike to be a LOT faster than packing and unpacking my S&S bike. I leave my folding bike folded up in my truck. My folding bike in the photo below. It was easier to carry it up the stairs at the motel folded, so I spent the half minute to fold it first. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8019d01cc2.jpg |
Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN
(Post 20866104)
One thing I probably did not mention above is that instead of trying to disassemble and reassemble with a multi-tool, you will probably be a lot happier with a real wrench. For me, travel with an S&S bike is for touring (front and rear racks, three water bottle cages, kickstand, etc.), and it is time consuming to do all of that disassembly and reassembly without the right tools. For you where you are not putting that much hardware on the bike will be faster, but still it is more convenient with the right tools. And a few extra M5 bolts for when one disappears.
Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN
(Post 20866104)
I need to pull both crank arms off to get the bike into a case. I converted my crankset to self extracting bolts. But the self extracting mechanism fell of the bike somewhere in the middle of Iceland. Needless to say, when I went to pack up the bike to come home, I had to move the self extractor from one crank to the other with out the proper tools to do so. From now on, carrying a real crank puller, no more of this messing around trying to lighten the load.
Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN
(Post 20866104)
I have had to tweak a few spokes to re-true up a wheel upon reassembly, I assume you know how to use a spoke wrench?
I have never had a coupler loosen on me while riding, but it has happened to others. Think about getting and carrying a small S&S wrench on PBP. I bought one of these to carry on day rides. Not an S&S wrench, but it will function as one. Shipped from China, expect it to take a month. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bicycle-Bik...-/172347087480
Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN
(Post 20866104)
You are going to love that bike.
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Originally Posted by kingston
(Post 20866226)
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I already love it, and I've only ridden it once. I see you're in Madison. Are you joining us for any brevets this season? But, last year I gave a tiny bit of thought to the 200k that I think was near Fond du Lac? I put a couple of your 200k rides on my calendar to force myself to think about it this year. But, I am getting on an airplane on Jun 5 to wander about the Canadian Maritimes for a month with my camping gear, so not sure yet if I might find time for a 200k before that. It certainly would force me to get some longer rides in pretty soon if I did one of your May rides. I also put Aug 3 on my calendar. Maybe? But for sure, nothing longer than a 200k. |
Oh, good grief, why did I think flying with my brevet bike seemed like a good idea? It's in the suitcase now (Thule Roundtrip Pro XT); need to add some more bubble wrap and figure out if I can/should pack anything else in there, but I have no idea if I'm going to be able to get it back together and I'm terrified for the carbon fork.
Also I just realized I'm going to have to pack it up after finishing a 600k, when I'll be exhausted and my hands will be tired, in time to make a 2pm flight the next day. I may have to hand it to a random bike shop in Florida and have them send it back to me. |
Originally Posted by antimonysarah
(Post 20867017)
... and figure out if I can/should pack anything else in there,
... but I have no idea if I'm going to be able to get it back together and .... The only parts that I have to struggle with reassembling are the headset. I keep a copy of the exploded diagram on my phone for reference, and I put all the parts back onto the steerer tube in the correct order and correct orientation. And use a rubber band or two on the end of the steerer so that they do not slide off. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8b8743a840.jpg |
Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN
(Post 20867870)
A luggage scale is the travelers best friend. I often find I am taking stuff out, not adding. In USA I aim for 49 pounds, the airline scales always seem to add a half pound.
The only parts that I have to struggle with reassembling are the headset. I keep a copy of the exploded diagram on my phone for reference, and I put all the parts back onto the steerer tube in the correct order and correct orientation. And use a rubber band or two on the end of the steerer so that they do not slide off. Mostly I'm just fretting about getting down there to find a smashed fork -- the S&S has a steel fork. |
Originally Posted by antimonysarah
(Post 20867937)
Both of those are things I have to do with my S&S bike (which just barely bike + case + tools which can't go carry-on clears the 50# limit ....
My low density stuff (empty water bottles, with no lids on them) go in the S&S case because of the light weight and large volume, high density stuff (steel pedals, Brooks saddle) come out of the S&S case and go elsewhere because they take little room in my other bag. I am not really sure what TSA is looking for in a checked bike bag, my last trip they left a note that said no and then some unreadable word. A friend of mine thought that the word was batteries. Thus, they might be looking for Lithium Ion batteries. That is something to consider if you have electronic shifting. Have a great ride. |
Great thread.
In late June, my wife and I are flying 1 way into Banff with our mountain tandem to ride south back into the states. Having done this solo that last few years, I've read every airlines rules on luggage that I could find. There seems to be a 62" limit in size and 50 pounds in weight before something gets classified as being over weight or size. With United last year they charged $150.00 if it was over 62" and/or 50# up to 70#. I verified the AND part with their customer service. Luckily our tandem has S&S couplers and uninflated the wheels are about 25.5" in diameter. I am not quite sure how the packing will go but I suspect that I will have 2 cardboard boxes at 26"x26"x10" and weighing 49# on a certified scale. When we get ready to fly home, I will break it down into 1 box and use bikeflights. Reassemble will take some time as the fork will come off and I will have to put the headset back in order, restring cables and adjust accordingly. The cranks might even have to come out. Not sure yet. But we have 2 days in Banff to get it all straightened out. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...021c2d9533.jpg |
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