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jideta 09-06-19 03:12 PM

Anyone riding Aforce AL33?
 
Thinking about plunging it.
How are you liking it?

jideta 09-08-19 01:24 PM

No one here riding this wheel?
First!

Chi_Z 09-08-19 02:22 PM

there are many cheaper alternatives that are close to half the price

jideta 09-08-19 05:53 PM

really? can you list them all for me with links to the best online prices?
thanks!

Marcus_Ti 09-08-19 07:22 PM

They are very nice rims. Right up there with Belgium+ and R90SL. Several wheel builders lace them.

jideta 09-08-19 09:25 PM

Most of the reviews I read were 1-2 years old. Was hoping for some newer insight or longterm info.
I guess I'll find out soon enough.
Was between R90 and Aforce and I decided to go deeper. Hope I don't get blown all over the creation.

Robert A 09-11-19 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by jideta (Post 21113902)
Most of the reviews I read were 1-2 years old. Was hoping for some newer insight or longterm info.
I guess I'll find out soon enough.
Was between R90 and Aforce and I decided to go deeper. Hope I don't get blown all over the creation.

What did you decide? Considering this rim as well.

jideta 09-11-19 11:43 AM

On the way.

Robert A 09-11-19 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by jideta (Post 21118054)
On the way.

Who from? Mind sharing your build and the bike model?

jideta 09-11-19 02:43 PM

build kit from Bike Hub Store

White Industries T11
Sapim CXrays
20f/24r

Bicycle is 2012 Dedacciai Strada Assoluto

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4686a2e6db.jpg

Old wheels are Kinlin XR27 front/XR300 rear WI H3 with CXrays.
I have a wheel set with H Plus Son Archetypes but decided I wanted the deeper profile of the Aforce (should be same as the old rear XR300).

Robert A 09-11-19 02:48 PM

Did you decide on ceramic or regular brake tracks, and what total build weight do you expect?

jideta 09-11-19 03:10 PM

MSW
Ceramic will eventually wear and I don't mind the machined look. Also didn't want to be messing around with brake pads.
I expect the build to be just under 1600gms. This will be with brass nipples( I ride next to the ocean a lot and don't want to be worrying about alloy nipples corroding). Not really concerned with the weight given the wider profile of the rims.
If I wanted lighter, I'd go Kinlin again. Or R90sl.

Robert A 09-13-19 08:01 AM

Judeta, when do your AL33 wheels arrive? Interested in your feedback.

jideta 09-13-19 10:50 AM

According to tracking they are here but I won't be able to start lacing them up until later today.

I'm afraid I don't expect them to be too different from the HEDs, HPlusSon or Kinlin I'm already riding/rode so I don't think I'll be much help.

Coming off factory wheels is a different story (road bike was a frame up build so I had custom wheels from day 1). You should feel a difference from those boat anchors you're spinning up.

Banzai 09-13-19 03:57 PM

In wind tunnel tests, Kinlin XR31T performed near identically to the AL33, but does so at half the price and lower weight, I believe.

Robert A 09-13-19 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by Banzai (Post 21121614)
In wind tunnel tests, Kinlin XR31T performed near identically to the AL33, but does so at half the price and lower weight, I believe.

Why are we picking apart rims that cost only $150 to begin with? It doesn't seem like that much money given its relative importance in the operation of a bicycle.

Chi_Z 09-13-19 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Robert A (Post 21121618)
Why are we picking apart rims that cost only $150 to begin with? It doesn't seem like that much money given its relative importance in the operation of a bicycle.

because rims are consumables, should spend the money on bling hubs

jideta 09-13-19 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Chi_Z (Post 21121693)
because rims are consumables, should spend the money on bling hubs

Seems like spending the extra just for bling is a waste of cash. Gold plate yer spokes while you're at it.
I don't need anyone to tell me where and how I should spend my cash.

I just laced up some Kinlin XR22T and the interior bead was almost cutting sharp. Had to burnish the edges with a socket before installing the tubes/tire. QC ain't exactly awesome on them Kinlins.
Is that what they call 'you get what you pay for?'

Besides, if any of you took the time to read, I'm already coming off XR270/XR300 Kinlin and wanted to try something different/better. Jeez, they're in the freakin picture of my bicycle!
So please, anymore Kinlin posts, please take it to the Kinlin thread.
thank you.

jideta 09-13-19 06:23 PM

I just wanted to say one more thing in relation to cost at the risk of hijacking my own thread.

Tires and wheels are the contact points to the ground. I think I got around $4000 in my bicycle and I'm going to worry about $75 bucks on my wheels? I'm gonna buy the cheapest on sale tires out there? Because they're consumables (what we call in the business wear and tear)? Really?

I'm at the point where I don't really have a budget for things like this. I ain't putting tires from Sears on a Ferrari just because they're going to wear out.

Again, tires and wheels are the only things that contact the road so if you need the cheapest solution, then you should also be riding the cheapest bicycle you can find too.

If you need to cheap out on something, wheels and tires ain't it. Go cheap on the saddle then you can be a cheap A$$.

Robert A 09-13-19 06:26 PM

It means something when we can save $500 on a $2,000 pair of wheels. But we spend $100 on cycling accessories without thinking about it. Why worry about saving $75 on a critical drivetrain component? Rims are not consumables unless you abuse the bike.

jideta 09-14-19 12:42 PM

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...01dc18609d.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e3e089b9be.jpg

Little glitch: wrong hub got Shimano instead of Campy
Exchange hubs later
Free sealant and tape!
thanks Brandon at BikeHubStore!

Psimet2001 09-14-19 01:36 PM

There a fine rim. I have built a few. The cost compared to it's relative value compared to other options is why I don't build with it on a regular basis. Anything close to modern in shape will beat those XR 270 and 300 you are still riding though.

jideta 09-14-19 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Psimet2001 (Post 21122464)
There a fine rim. I have built a few. The cost compared to it's relative value compared to other options is why I don't build with it on a regular basis. Anything close to modern in shape will beat those XR 270 and 300 you are still riding though.

And those old Kinlins are of course, PSIMETs.

I think I ordered them in 2011 or so, finally retiring them.

BTW, congrats on 10 years Rob!

jideta 09-15-19 02:44 AM

Big and fat.
First things that came to mind.
Not like the HEDs. More on this later.
Makes your tires sort of like low profiles. Spesh 26mm Turbo Cottons measure out to about 27mm, not much gain, but compared to the 28s, you lose a bunch of sidewall.
Not sure if I'm gonna ride em yet as I got the wrong free hub; I can always change the derailleur but I'm feeling kinda lazy.
Can't really tell the difference between the HPlusSon on the rear despite being 7mm wider.
The bad.
On both rims, there is a humungous bump on the sidewall where I believe the weld is. Well, huge in wheel truing scale. Upon closer inspection, you can see the 'bump' on the inside also as it's actually a rise in the sidewall.
Trued the wheel vertically best I can, but there's still that little hump that I think if I were to adjust out, I'm would be actually flattening that part of the rim.
Okay, one rim I can see. But both?
Out of Kinlin, Alex, HSonPlus and HED, by far the worst finish on the seam. I may be nitpicking but these are one of the most expensive alloy rims out there.
I don't think it will affect the ride. When I first saw it I did worry about pulses when braking but I think it will be okay.
To the Robert fellow, get the R90sl or HEDs instead.
Unless you really want big and fat.
Pics tomorrow.

Robert A 09-15-19 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by jideta (Post 21122995)
To the Robert fellow, get the R90sl or HEDs instead.

Was headed to HED or Easton anyway for weight reasons, but still want to hear your impressions.


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