value of Behringer road bike
I have a 61cm Cecil Behringer road bike that has a full Campy Record group with Wheelmith/Sauturn wheels with low flange Campy hubs. Cecil made the bike for me a looong time ago, and I have no idea what it's worth today. It's in excellent condition, and has been stored in my temp/humidity controlled basement. If it would help I can supply closeup pics. I know that not many people are aware of Cecil's accomplishments, and I'm sure that makes it hard to appraise the value, but I would appreciate any help I can get. Thank you, Dave
ps. I tried to post a picture, but it's been 20+ years since I've been on the forum, and since I didn't have an old email address, I couldn't revitalize my membership, so now having to sign up new - I didn't have the 10 posts to add the pic sorry |
If you post some pics in the gallery someone can move them here for you.
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If you are in the Twin Cities, take it to Dan at Grand Performance.
He can get you started on value, as he is "in the know' with a CB. |
I've already talked some to Dan, as he's an old friend from when he was here at Southern Illinois University as a student. He was working on a value for me, but I thought that because they're so rare, someone here might have an idea. Thanks for the response.
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Thanks, I'll upload some pics to the gallery and go that route.
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but I thought that because they're so rare, someone here might have an idea. As for the value of your bike, it does sound like it might be worth a few, if not many, dollars. As mentioned, we need to see pictures and you need 10 posts before you can post pictures in a thread. So, to get the posts up, tell us where you live. What size the bike is. Condition. Where you got it. Are you the first owner. Each one of those will get the post numbers up and supply us with useful information that will help with appraisal efforts. |
Originally Posted by davidgilmore
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I've already talked some to Dan, as he's an old friend from when he was here at Southern Illinois University as a student. He was working on a value for me, but I thought that because they're so rare, someone here might have an idea. Thanks for the response.
As Randy mentioned, paint a picture for us and fill in why the bike is special. Did you race with Dan? |
These are rare, but not a deep interest.
The very small and the very large are at the ends of the bell curve. I have seen frames sell for $300, and whole bikes for the near the same. Interesting builder, interesting connection to Pino. |
Originally Posted by gomango
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Did you race with Dan?
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My Behringer knowledge is sparse, hopefully that will change as we move forward here but I am always puzzled a bit by the low interest for many excellent world class builders.
I get it that many of them didn't make and sell more than a few hundred frames or bikes but most of them put far more effort with excellent results in than many of the marques we fawn over. Many of these craftsmen deserve far more respect AND value than they seem to get most of the time imho. :bang: |
Originally Posted by merziac
(Post 21638474)
My Behringer knowledge is sparse, hopefully that will change as we move forward here but I am always puzzled a bit by the low interest for many excellent world class builders.
I get it that many of them didn't make and sell more than a few hundred frames or bikes but most of them put far more effort with excellent results in than many of the marques we fawn over. Many of these craftsmen deserve far more respect AND value than they seem to get most of the time imho. :bang: Cecil was probably better known as a six day racer/metallurgist, as well as the developer of the portable velodrome. Cecil told me that a lot of people didn't know his bikes because many of them were in Europe with another companies decal on them. He built Giuseppe Saronni's world championship bike, which allowed him to put the rainbow stripes on his bikes. He built some for Eddy Merxx, but is most famous for his development of the process for hardening titanium (as well as nitrogen loading steel), hence the first 10lb titanium bike. He was also friends and partners with Pino Marroni, and they produced some very innovative procedures, including silver soldering frames - my Behringer TT bike is siver soldered. However, I'm sure most of you know all this, but if you're curious, this internet has a lot of info on him. I didn't know him all that well, but the little time I spent as his shop convinced me that he was one of the most brilliant people alive. My problem in letting them go is the profound respect I have for the man, and to me, they're also works of art. Anyway, once i get my 10 posts, I'll post pictures with full descriptions. Thanks for listening. |
Originally Posted by merrman
(Post 21636256)
If you post some pics in the gallery someone can move them here for you.
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Brilliant bicycles. I’m sure the valuations will be high.
Is the black paint on the first Behringer original? |
Originally Posted by SoccerBallXan
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Brilliant bicycles. I’m sure the valuations will be high.
Is the black paint on the first Berhinger original? I'm not sure of build dates, but I know they were all around 1980+/- I live in Murphysboro, IL in the southern tip of the state. Please let me know if you would like anything else. |
Beautiful bikes. You'll likely have to list them on eBay to get top dollar for them and that's a bit of a pain. You're unlikely to find a buyer near where you live who will pay you what they are worth. You might but that market will be thin. You might want to pay for membership here (I think $10 a year) which will allow you to sell them on the C&V for sale forum.
I know these bikes are very special to you and that they are special bikes, but you may find that they do not command the premium of some of the better known custom builders. |
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I may be interested if you decide to sell. I passed up a CB about 5 years ago that I wish I hadn't.
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Originally Posted by merziac
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https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/...cil-behringer/ |
Originally Posted by bikemig
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Beautiful bikes. You'll likely have to list them on eBay to get top dollar for them and that's a bit of a pain. You're unlikely to find a buyer near where you live who will pay you what they are worth. You might but that market will be thin. You might want to pay for membership here (I think $10 a year) which will allow you to sell them on the C&V for sale forum.
I know these bikes are very special to you and that they are special bikes, but you may find that they do not command the premium of some of the better known custom builders. So even in a sport/hobby/obsession where we know better, name recognition, instant gratification, starry eyed, goo goo, ga ga still gets us at the end of the day, a fool and his money..... :roflmao: Don't get me wrong, the greats are great, many others were just as great but not rewarded for it. :crash: |
Originally Posted by rjhammett
(Post 21639602)
I may be interested if you decide to sell. I passed up a CB about 5 years ago that I wish I hadn't.
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Can anyone give me an approximate value?
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The market on American custom bikes is thin. I’d look at eBay prices to see what custom bikes of this era are running with similar groups. I’d also look at what Schwinn paramounts of this era are worth on eBay. You can search sold prices. Basically try to find comparables.
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Originally Posted by davidgilmore
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Can anyone give me an approximate value?
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Value for Behringer frame needed!
I would love some information (value estimates) on my newly discovered 56cm Behringer! My apologies for having it soda blasted, but it was so covered in multiple coats of thick paint....I am probably going to put it up for sale in the C&V sales section here, but would love some advice on it: Any approximation of value, or what to list it at. I know, I know....it is worth what someone is willing to pay for it... my other big questions, should I have it painted before posting it for sale, or leave it clean for the new owner to do with as desired? If I should paint it, powder coat? I want to keep this on a budget as I am guessing the frame isn't going to bring THAT much. But with the Campy dropouts and the Cinelli bottom bracket....and the lug work is really nice....if it was a little bit bigger, I would keep it! Thanks much in advance, I really appreciate the amazing resource on this forum!
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