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molten 03-29-16 07:20 AM

Know of any gov-funded cycling-advocacy org that not doing it job:
 
That not responding to actually "advocate", hence stand-up to argue for, for cyclists.
Like joining a cyclist's action to present an issue to city/county council, traffic commission, etc.
Add the group not serving an obligation to speak to the media, when issues like potholes, lack of gov. action to repair roads -- etc. go on.

ItsJustMe 03-29-16 08:07 AM

I don't think there are any complete sentences anywhere in that post that make any sense. I can't figure out what you want. Apologies if you are not a native English speaker.

Chief 03-29-16 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by ItsJustMe (Post 18644827)
I don't think there are any complete sentences anywhere in that post that make any sense. I can't figure out what you want. Apologies if you are not a native English speaker.

Okay... it's not just me.... :)

kickstart 03-29-16 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by ItsJustMe (Post 18644827)
I don't think there are any complete sentences anywhere in that post that make any sense. I can't figure out what you want. Apologies if you are not a native English speaker.


Originally Posted by Chief (Post 18644836)
Okay... it's not just me.... :)

Or me. I can't quite puzzle it out.

indyfabz 03-29-16 08:19 AM

Or me three.

I-Like-To-Bike 03-29-16 08:21 AM

I ran it through a Gibberish Translator:
The answer is No!
Perhaps the OP should reveal if he knows of any such organization and could provide details in English..

dynodonn 03-29-16 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike (Post 18644875)
I ran it through a Gibberish Translator:


:lol:

Dave Cutter 03-29-16 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by molten (Post 18644734)
Know of any gov-funded cycling-advocacy org that not doing it job: That not responding to actually "advocate", hence stand-up to argue for, for cyclists.
Like joining a cyclist's action to present an issue to city/county council, traffic commission, etc.
Add the group not serving an obligation to speak to the media, when issues like potholes, lack of gov. action to repair roads -- etc. go on.

Although... most people don't think of advocacy groups as being publicly (government) funded.... many are. Any (which literally means every) lobbying group that influences congress in it's allocation of funding is entitled (under federal regulations) to class action funding. So... you could Google [search] for a "National Bicycle Lobbyist"... or you could just go directly to the League of American Bicyclists.

Of course... once any organization gets the bulk of it's funding from a single source... that is who/what they become. "The League" mostly lobbies for bicycle path infrastructure spending... and they get a percentage/class action funding in return... as I understand it. So road repair/potholes in streets... would be of no concern to them (making the short answer... no).

But you could try joining a local cycling group/club that may have shared interests in approaching local officials about the local street/traffic conditions.

However.... for most people the first response to a "pot hole" or "traffic problem" is to call the/their local city commissioner and ask that the problem be addressed.

badger1 03-29-16 08:49 AM

The original post consists of remarkably opaque prose, even by BF standards.

howsteepisit 03-29-16 10:03 AM

Or, In looking thorough the fog, even if I know some advocacy organization that's not doing its "job" so what? What is the OP suggesting one do? Or are they looking for suggestions on what to do? As I said, its early morning pea soup here.

molten 03-29-16 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by Dave Cutter (Post 18644953)
Although... most people don't think of advocacy groups as being publicly (government) funded.... many are. Any (which literally means every) lobbying group that influences congress in it's allocation of funding is entitled (under federal regulations) to class action funding. So... you could Google [search] for a "National Bicycle Lobbyist"... or you could just go directly to the League of American Bicyclists.

Of course... once any organization gets the bulk of it's funding from a single source... that is who/what they become. "The League" mostly lobbies for bicycle path infrastructure spending... and they get a percentage/class action funding in return... as I understand it. So road repair/potholes in streets... would be of no concern to them (making the short answer... no).

But you could try joining a local cycling group/club that may have shared interests in approaching local officials about the local street/traffic conditions.

However.... for most people the first response to a "pot hole" or "traffic problem" is to call the/their local city commissioner and ask that the problem be addressed.

That be correct --- in whom to contact. But much of society is INSECURE nowadays. As taxpayers who contact to local & govt officials -- once contact be made, their name become avail to the public. Much of society be paranoia to making public comment, due to name of who made comments (add comments) made at public meetings -- possibly to become published or televised. So much paranoia.

Dave Cutter 03-29-16 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by molten (Post 18645473)
.... But much of society is INSECURE nowadays.

No. Insecurity is a individual human feeling... it is never an emotion attributed to a group.


Originally Posted by molten (Post 18645473)
.... So much paranoia.

Again no. paranoia is a mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance, typically elaborated into an organized system. It may be an aspect of chronic personality disorder, of drug abuse, or of a serious condition such as schizophrenia in which the person loses touch with reality.

You should discuss these feelings with loved ones, family, your healthcare provider, spiritual leader, friends, someone in HR at work. Get help. You don't have to live with those feelings. There are treatments that can help.

noglider 03-29-16 03:07 PM

The City of New York has a good complaint department. You can dial 311 from a NYC landline, you can use the 311 smartphone app, or you can lodge a complaint on their web site. I have used it several times with good success, but one thing that really annoys me is that the site says they are NOT taking any more reports of sewer grates that need replacement. How can they have a policy like that? We still have some of the longitudinal bike-tire-eating type.

walrus1 03-29-16 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 18646216)
The City of New York has a good complaint department. You can dial 311 from a NYC landline, you can use the 311 smartphone app, or you can lodge a complaint on their web site. I have used it several times with good success, but one thing that really annoys me is that the site says they are NOT taking any more reports of sewer grates that need replacement. How can they have a policy like that? We still have some of the longitudinal bike-tire-eating type.

You got 311 to do something?!!! Usually, they come by a few hours later and mark the problem as solved. Or they fix the problem months later when they repave a road.

noglider 03-29-16 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by walrus1 (Post 18647054)
You got 311 to do something?!!! Usually, they come by a few hours later and mark the problem as solved. Or they fix the problem months later when they repave a road.

The best time was when the river bike path was covered in ice for almost two miles. No one used it. It seemed the city had forgotten about it. They cleared it a few days after I requested it!

Save this in your address book: (212) 639-9675. That's the "real" number for 311.

unterhausen 03-30-16 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by Dave Cutter (Post 18644953)
Although... most people don't think of advocacy groups as being publicly (government) funded.... many are. Any (which literally means every) lobbying group that influences congress in it's allocation of funding is entitled (under federal regulations) to class action funding. So... you could Google [search] for a "National Bicycle Lobbyist"... or you could just go directly to the League of American Bicyclists.

it's illegal to use federal funds to lobby congress. The class action funding that you mention is also incorrect, they get no funding as part of government programs to build infrastructure. However, your advice about potholes is correct, LAB is not going to help with that except possibly to tell you to call your local government.

Dave Cutter 03-30-16 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by unterhausen (Post 18648670)
it's illegal to use federal funds to lobby congress.

Were you out-of-town in 1993 when Bill Clinton forever changed that? The "class action" loophole is a remnant of the Clinton years.


Originally Posted by unterhausen (Post 18648670)
The class action funding that you mention is also incorrect, they get no funding as part of government programs to build infrastructure.

So... you don't think the LAB is a registered lobbyist?!?! Getting funding from that activity?!?!? Maybe... you should read their own Web Pages. I rarely include links as people then just dig up bogus meaningless links to counteract... starting link wars (which are childish). This link better shows the exploitation of federal funding in lobbying ... with the LAB. But nowhere will you find the exact millions (of taxpayer dollars) the lawyers at LAB are raking in.


Originally Posted by unterhausen (Post 18648670)
However, your advice about potholes is correct, LAB is not going to help with that except possibly to tell you to call your local government.

Of course I am correct. But only because facts don't need to be liked or desired... they are just truths.

indyfabz 03-30-16 01:30 PM

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SkyDog75 03-30-16 07:58 PM

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The Quiet One 04-02-16 06:12 AM

Normal gibberish or authentic frontier gibberish translator?

Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike (Post 18644875)
I ran it through a Gibberish Translator:
The answer is No!
Perhaps the OP should reveal if he knows of any such organization and could provide details in English..


I-Like-To-Bike 04-02-16 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by The Quiet One (Post 18657248)
Normal gibberish or authentic frontier gibberish translator?

Street Corner Ranter with Internet Access version.

rydabent 04-02-16 07:20 AM

Im sure like any big government spending there are some advocacy groups that spend their money wisely, and some that dont. I would like to hear and see proof which ones are not.

ItsJustMe 04-03-16 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by The Quiet One (Post 18657248)
Normal gibberish or authentic frontier gibberish translator?

Howard Johnson is right!

Raregh.

fietsbob 04-03-16 09:36 PM

tax deductible charities are private funds diverted from going away in taxes to the government.


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