Shimano 12 speed touring bike¿
https://bike.shimano.com/en-US/infor...-scylence.html
Anyone waiting, saveing up for 12 speed? Faster lighter stronger¿ |
Ahh, 12 speed! I was thinking 2 x 6.
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Nah, my six, seven, and ten speeds have suited me just fine. I'd hate to be sitting around waiting for something that only exists in the virtual world when real world gear works great
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Good to have a few more standards introduced. I was worried we might be running short of having a wide selection of options to choose from. This is exceptionally important for establishing an industry standard.
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Just what we tourists needed, a 10 tooth cog! Now we can not get more mid range choices, do get more chordal effect, do get quicker wear. All for more cost and a narrowing of working adjustment range. Like I said just what a touring rider has been seeking out. Andy
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If it is a 1X12 , I would be more worried about the gearing on the high end. Let's say a 32 on the front and 11-42 on the rear, that is fine for low gearing, but for touring (as opposed to MTB), there are opportunities for speed and 32X11 won't cut it. Now, if you're talking 2X12, that might be something. 30 yrs ago I thought 3X 7 was more than enough, but I was young and foolish :p
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Personally I’m waiting for 10 speed front chain rings. With a 10 speed rear cassette I could have 100 gears! |
Originally Posted by chrisx
(Post 20677657)
https://bike.shimano.com/en-US/infor...-scylence.html
Anyone waiting, saveing up for 12 speed? Faster lighter stronger¿ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohloff_Speedhub Huba! Huba! |
"the MICRO SPLINE hubs fit all current frames whether you have a boost (148mm) or non-boost (142mm) frame."
so, umm, these are for tandems? :foo: "So what about compatibility? The MICRO SPLINE freewheels are only..." no more cassettes? back to freewheels! :thumb: |
I'm with Caretaker. This Shimano 12 is the best argument for a Rohloff hub I've seen. :)
Shimano quietly released yet another a new Alfine 11 version this past year, the SG-S7001-11. According to Shimano, it features "Improved internal structure for better gear engagement". Maybe it won't be a skip-o-matic like the many previous iterations. |
Originally Posted by chrisx
(Post 20677657)
https://bike.shimano.com/en-US/infor...-scylence.html
Anyone waiting, saveing up for 12 speed? Faster lighter stronger¿ |
I already have a 1 X 14 with a Rohloff, don't need to downgrade to only a 12 speed.
Just joking, I only have one Rohloff bike, most of my other bikes have an 8 speed cassette. |
being played?
2 Rohloff, 1st in a bike with 26" wheels , 2nd in 406 20" wheels ..
my winter rain bike... same gear range, 1 a 38t , 2nd a 53t... Industry keeps working the tifosi / customers, you keep sucking it up.. . |
Originally Posted by saddlesores
(Post 20677917)
"the MICRO SPLINE hubs fit all current frames whether you have a boost (148mm) or non-boost (142mm) frame."
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Originally Posted by speyfitter
(Post 20677810)
Personally I’m waiting for 10 speed front chain rings. With a 10 speed rear cassette I could have 100 gears! |
Originally Posted by saddlesores
(Post 20677917)
"the MICRO SPLINE hubs fit all current frames whether you have a boost (148mm) or non-boost (142mm) frame."
...:
Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 20678467)
What now?
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Thru axle is where the manufacturing companies trend mongers,
want you to go, now.. ... |
Hmm, at the $700 or so the few sites that have it for preorder have the 12spd casette/RD/chain/shifter it listed at (not to mention, how many touring frames come in that rear spacing), I think I'd side with the Rohloff crowd for a bit more money.
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Here is a touring ferame with 148mm dropouts
FLX-FR-701 ( 29er boost ) Well, it is a touring bike if you subscribe to willis bikepacking thread. Ok the XTR xassette is over $300, and not yet in stock. Soon enough they will have xt for $89 or $110, or so. Or like the guy on the trolley said to me eariler today, his 2005 is a lot less money to maintain and runs fine- |
Originally Posted by MarcusT
(Post 20677784)
If it is a 1X12 , I would be more worried about the gearing on the high end. Let's say a 32 on the front and 11-42 on the rear, that is fine for low gearing, but for touring (as opposed to MTB), there are opportunities for speed and 32X11 won't cut it. Now, if you're talking 2X12, that might be something. 30 yrs ago I thought 3X 7 was more than enough, but I was young and foolish :p
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Originally Posted by speyfitter
(Post 20677810)
Personally I’m waiting for 10 speed front chain rings. With a 10 speed rear cassette I could have 100 gears! |
Originally Posted by alias5000
(Post 20693228)
Combine an 3x11 drivetrain with a SRAM Dualdrive (or Sturmey Archer equivalent) and you already can have 99 gears :D
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Originally Posted by tcs
(Post 20693319)
Combine a Pinion with a Rohloff and you can have 252 gears.
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Originally Posted by tcs
(Post 20693319)
Combine a Pinion with a Rohloff and you can have 252 gears.
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In the 50s A friend's bike got 2, 3 speeds , 1 like a Trike hub 2nd chain attached to the hubshell,
driving the wheel hub.. do that with 2 NuVinci Hubs and you got double infinity.. .... |
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