Does a decent plate-less mounted kickstand exist?
 

Up to now the only bikes here that got a kickstand had flat chainstay bridges, built-for-purpose.
But now a bike here without that bridge could use one.
Is there a kickstand that won't mar the stays and is otherwise sufficient?

You get the rear kickstand that mounts near the axle.

Not much force is needed for those bolts, and I always wrap stays with one layer of inner tubing to prevent said marring.

And no worries about cranks hitting kickstand when walking the bike backwards.

I was looking at those; this bike has a front-wheel motor and a battery forward of the rear axle and I was hoping for a support closer to the cog.
The tubes are round, so likely I'll make some half-round inserts and try them.

The reason why these rear kickstand use less clamping force is because they don't need to be as tight.

The stays prevent the stand from twisting, which occurs often on bottom bracket stands.

I have seen bottom bracket stands bolted on so tight, they squished and deformed the chainstays.

A pletscher double kickstand works well for this as long as your chain stays have the room for it, and they’re very stable. They come with plastic inserts to help protect the frame.

Greenfield rear kickstand

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wrt chainstay mount you may wish to investigate some of the products of HEBIE (DE), Trygg (SE) & Shuresta (UK)

mention these three only because all three had multiple models done over a long period

am not familiar with all models

very much appreciate inquiry; we have all seen nice frames with chain stays pancaked by propstand mounts

have had some where the "mechanic" kept leaning on the spanner until they achieved complete collapse of both stays :eek:

unfortunately, have no printed materials from HEBIE or Trygg...


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wonder if the wedge-shaped mounting bracket from the Sanyo dynamo might be of help here...it spreads the load out well


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Nothing helps. Stoopid can overcome anything.

When do you need a kickstand?

If I'm riding out in the countryside, clearly not. I think the only time it might come in handy is when you're riding around town. If you stop and use the kickstand and walk away from your bike, there's a good chance it won't be there when you get back, so you'll probably lock it to something, negating the need for a kickstand. There are times when I've ridden in large organized groups where there wasn't anything to tie to, and felt secure leaving my bike to have some lunch. The ol' two bike kickstand trick works well for that.

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Touroica 2023

What if nature calls while out on a ride? Every e-bike in particular should have a kickstand in my opinion. Not always easy to lean on something.

E-bike? Wrong forum. Since most of the ones I see people riding weigh 50 lbs or more, they probably come with a kickstand. Motorcycles are pretty heavy, hard to stand them up, so yeah, they have kickstands.

On our 2023 Touroica 5 day tour we had a dozen riders. When we were out in the boonies and needed a lunch/bio break, we just did this:

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And anyone states that their bike is too nice to lay down like this, note that we had a Cinelli, Paramount, Merz, and an Ebisu on this 5 day tour. None of them had a kickstand.

The subject of this thread is a bike with a front hub motor.

Yeah, wrong forum.