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CrowSeph 09-30-20 12:04 PM

more parts to identify (campagnolo and others)
 
As the tittle says , help me identify the part , the model and if we can the year.
Waiting for you professor juvela

edit: For an upload error , all photos are visible from there (LINK)

SurferRosa 09-30-20 12:12 PM

Are there better, in-focus pics somewhere?

Have you checked velobase? It's basically all there.

CrowSeph 09-30-20 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by lewisgideon (Post 21721162)
Wow, this is too difficult for me.
Good luck dude


Originally Posted by SurferRosa (Post 21721155)
Are there better, in-focus pics somewhere?

Have you checked velobase? It's basically all there.


Sorry for my error , please take a look at the first message. i inserted a complete gallery with the photos
link to the album ---> https://ibb.co/album/JWzcmk

unworthy1 09-30-20 12:44 PM

I think the shift lever "Triplex" was a Spanish brand that made Campy-clones like Zeus but lesser-known. The BSC Campy BB has what's sometimes called "Thun" style cups and needs a special tool, this is one of my least favorite Campy products of all time. Looks like you have some other interesting bits in the "Big Shot" but I cannot zoom in on them

CrowSeph 09-30-20 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by unworthy1 (Post 21721220)
I think the shift lever "Triplex" was a Spanish brand that made Campy-clones like Zeus but lesser-known. The BSC Campy BB has what's sometimes called "Thun" style cups and needs a special tool, this is one of my least favorite Campy products of all time. Looks like you have some other interesting bits in the "Big Shot" but I cannot zoom in on them

tell me which part you are talking about and i'll make more photos ;)

unworthy1 09-30-20 01:36 PM

These interest me to see close-ups (but maybe others will have other requests)

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a810672b25.png

CrowSeph 09-30-20 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by unworthy1 (Post 21721320)
These interest me to see close-ups (but maybe others will have other requests)

please forgive me for my dirty hands but i couldn't resist and i had to start polishing some :D :D
here they are https://ibb.co/album/7YFkF8

also , what the hell is this? https://i.ibb.co/4mVFpD8/Whats-App-I...t-22-12-32.jpg

unworthy1 09-30-20 02:56 PM

No idea about those "what the hell?" parts are, somebody else will have to ID them. You have worn RD pullies but seem to be mostly un-cracked (maybe one is cracked); the single Campy Barcon is a friction-only unit and most people are unimpressed with how well these work, Suntour, Shimano, Simplex barcons are all considered better, by most. Apparently the quill was sliced off a (? 3TTT?) 85mm stem, if so that's weird, why would anybody want that? And you have a handful of clamp plates (for FDs?) also very odd things to collect so many of. Thanks for the close-up pix...

juvela 09-30-20 03:03 PM

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in image nr. https://i.ibb.co/b3vzmpx/IMG-20200930-193135.jpg

the gear cable guide is Freres Huret part Nr. 1846, the marking it wears began ~1965


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f15f67ee49.jpg




the crank arm and & adjacent bottom bracket fittings are Campag Record series (pre-Nuovo Record)

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the Simplex shift levers are Prestige series part Nr. 3952, launch for this "compass/star" logo was 1974

the Freres Huret shift levers are part Nr. 1136-01, launch was 1974-75

the handlebar end shift lever , Ref. 1012/3, is fairly early Campag. by about 1974 the expander assembly had become black plastic.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...259898b643.gif


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Drillium Dude 09-30-20 04:22 PM

The BB axle in the group photo, just above the non-drive crankarm, is the second version of Campagnolo's titanium offering. The original used typical threaded bolts, but this version is externally threaded and takes two nuts which the OP appears to be missing. I think some people will pay good money for that on Ebay if in good shape.

DD

SurferRosa 09-30-20 06:04 PM

The Italian threaded rear hub is either Victory, Triomphe, Chorus, or Athena. The only way I can tell them apart is based on the skewer nut, which I don't see in the pics.

thumpism 09-30-20 10:25 PM

Here's a tool that should work with the BB. Peugeot used a *** BB with plastic cups which required this.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f4663a5558.jpg

Those Triplex shifters are rare in the U.S. I've seen one pair in the metal, on a Flandria at the co-op.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3982f3f271.jpg

*edit*

Okay, it won't let me post F.A.G., the name of the company that makes the component and the tool.

martl 10-01-20 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by CrowSeph (Post 21721412)
please forgive me for my dirty hands but i couldn't resist and i had to start polishing some :D :D
here they are https://ibb.co/album/7YFkF8

also , what the hell is this? https://i.ibb.co/4mVFpD8/Whats-App-I...t-22-12-32.jpg

the "what the hell" part almost looks like an early FD hanger for bikes without the brazeon? clamp diameter is too small for a seat tube, though, so its probably for some rear light...

oneclick 10-01-20 04:38 AM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 21722121)

Those Triplex shifters are rare in the U.S. I've seen one pair in the metal, on a Flandria at the co-op.

There's a reason for that: they are junk. I know, I had two of them; soft alloy, no bushings on the pivots, all were loose to start with. I wrapped one around the spokes once and had to repair it (no money, that's why I had it to start with) - cage cut from aluminium plate, inner parallelogram arm from a section of angle. Was better than new, still junk.

thumpism 10-01-20 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by oneclick (Post 21722245)
There's a reason for that: they are junk. I know, I had two of them; soft alloy, no bushings on the pivots, all were loose to start with. I wrapped one around the spokes once and had to repair it (no money, that's why I had it to start with) - cage cut from aluminium plate, inner parallelogram arm from a section of angle. Was better than new, still junk.

Are you speaking of shifters or derailleurs?

oneclick 10-01-20 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 21722335)
Are you speaking of shifters or derailleurs?

The mechs, mostly, but the shifters were no better.

CrowSeph 10-01-20 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by martl (Post 21722218)
the "what the hell" part almost looks like an early FD hanger for bikes without the brazeon? clamp diameter is too small for a seat tube, though, so its probably for some rear light...

News: a guy from a social network told me that parts were used as carter's holder. But I found a way to use as pump holder. Photo soon

edit: photo there https://i.ibb.co/8XYMMp2/IMG-20201001-154709.jpg

MarcoBianchi 10-01-20 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by oneclick (Post 21722245)
There's a reason for that: they are junk. I know, I had two of them; soft alloy, no bushings on the pivots, all were loose to start with. I wrapped one around the spokes once and had to repair it (no money, that's why I had it to start with) - cage cut from aluminium plate, inner parallelogram arm from a section of angle. Was better than new, still junk.

+1 There are tons of Triplex on cheapest Spanish bikes, the worst shifters I've ever used.

repechage 10-01-20 04:00 PM

There is the stalk of a 85mm 3ttt stem, why someone cut it and filed it down is a curious waste of time.

Mad Honk 10-01-20 06:39 PM

CrowSeph,
I would like to see the cups inner side for the BB if they are the insert type they may be the match for the spindle creating a complete BB. Smiles, MH

CrowSeph 10-01-20 07:30 PM

oneclick : interesting!
thumpism first time i've seen a tool like this , tnx for sharing.
Drillium Dude : i found some listing on auctions and yea i confirm that seems very rare.... so i decided to list my to.
juvela : as always you are great!
repechage : is not cutted , is just as it seems... looks like a modern fork tube where you install the stem directly.... very strange
Mad Honk : yea tomorrow i'll , now is 3 of night on italy and i don't want to make noise :D

stardognine 10-01-20 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 21722121)
Here's a tool that should work with the BB. Peugeot used a *** BB with plastic cups which required this.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f4663a5558.jpg

Those Triplex shifters are rare in the U.S. I've seen one pair in the metal, on a Flandria at the co-op.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3982f3f271.jpg

*edit*

Okay, it won't let me post F.A.G., the name of the company that makes the component and the tool.

Hey, I’ve heard of that company! I actually bought one of their cartridge BBs for dirt cheap, a long time ago, but didn’t have that tool. I can’t remember what happened to it now, but I was pretty impressed with the quality of it. 👍


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