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SpinClassSara 07-19-19 09:44 AM

What was Dennis thinking?
 
I think he was insane to just leave the race. If he had a fight with management, abandoning is not going to get him a contract with another team.

Anyone?

Doge 07-19-19 02:23 PM

Is there an official story?

ksryder 07-19-19 02:26 PM

He issued a vague statement that clarified nothing. Team hasn't said anything of value either.

He has a reputation for being mercurial and touchy. Best guess is that something relatively benign set him off and he overreacted.

https://cyclingtips.com/2019/07/insi...-rohan-dennis/

Brocephus 07-19-19 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by ksryder (Post 21035391)
He has a reputation for being mercurial and touchy........

Apparently those are pro-cycling euphemisms for spoiled, prissy, unreasonable, irrational, selfish, shortsighted, and/or self-sabotaging, take your pick. :rolleyes:

2cam16 07-19-19 05:40 PM

Hincapie heard it had something to do with him not being happy with team equipment. Hopefully we'll have something clear soon.

Bandera 07-19-19 05:50 PM

Haven't you ever wanted to tell your bosses to as David Allen Coe put it:
"Take this job and shove it, I ain't workin' here no more"?

When you have real talent you can take it elsewhere.


Good for RD, and yes It Does Feel Great to do so and did me no great "career harm" and quite a lot of Good.

-Bandera

work4bike 07-20-19 05:38 AM

I would think that if he did just quit, because of some argument with management, regardless of particulars, it seems like he should be in some legal trouble with not living up to his contractual obligations.

Rajflyboy 07-20-19 07:24 AM

He doesn’t like the bikes. With the same watts he is losing time compared to last bike and team equipment. . Bike is slower than his last year bike (info from the move podcast).

Marcus_Ti 07-20-19 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by Doge (Post 21035388)
Is there an official story?

Per VeloNews:


Upon approaching Dennis and asking if he could spare “one minute for a few questions,” I was served a vicious stare and a reply that’s best left unpublished on this site. Needless to say, it was typical of the rider who, can sometimes be prickly with the media.
https://www.velonews.com/2019/07/tou...answers_497636

Flatballer 07-20-19 08:59 AM

Still kind of baffling.

My wife, a non-cyclist, thought it was weird that I thought it was weird though. She figured people quit constantly because it's such a long, hard race.

I told her usually unless they're really, really sick or injured, they'll keep going. Which to someone who doesn't race probably does sound crazy.

Doge 07-20-19 10:23 AM

My kid was kinda that way about equipment, as I was. They are racing for 15 sec diff or so. If along with everything else like having to work extra hard, the equipment is not dialed in, an ITT current WC may want to just not play than turn in a bad time. I don't think he handled it well, but I understand it.
If he was a mid level rider, who cares if he gets 20th or 50th, or 150th. But he was going for the win and felt it was out of reach.

As a fan, I think an ITT win would have looked better for the team than where I think there GC guy will finish. But then, I don't know what his agreement was.

Rajflyboy 07-20-19 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Doge (Post 21036386)
My kid was kinda that way about equipment, as I was. They are racing for 15 sec diff or so. If along with everything else like having to work extra hard, the equipment is not dialed in, an ITT current WC may want to just not play than turn in a bad time. I don't think he handled it well, but I understand it.
If he was a mid level rider, who cares if he gets 20th or 50th, or 150th. But he was going for the win and felt it was out of reach.

As a fan, I think an ITT win would have looked better for the team than where I think there GC guy will finish. But then, I don't know what his agreement was.

This :thumb:

one4smoke 07-20-19 03:53 PM

Sounds as if Rohan is simply a spoiled brat.

Dennis the menace? :roflmao2:

Shadco 07-20-19 08:31 PM

What happened to converting the bike you like to your team’s colors?

Are they so unique now that that would stand out too much?

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Rajflyboy 07-21-19 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by Shadco (Post 21037048)
What happened to converting the bike you like to your team’s colors?

Are they so unique now that that would stand out too much?

.

Yes according to the podcast

work4bike 07-21-19 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by Rajflyboy (Post 21036178)
He doesn’t like the bikes. With the same watts he is losing time compared to last bike and team equipment. . Bike is slower than his last year bike (info from the move podcast).

I saw that episode...

To be fair, they (Lance and George) said this was all a unconfirmed....

Rajflyboy 07-21-19 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by work4bike (Post 21037289)
I saw that episode...

To be fair, they (Lance and George) said this was all a unconfirmed....

They have to say that.

AnthonyG 07-21-19 08:41 PM

Bahrain Merida has Vincenzo Nibali on the team riding the same bikes. Whatever the issue is I'm rather disappointed in Rohan for just pulling out like that and unfortunately I don't see it as a good long term career move.

work4bike 07-22-19 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by Rajflyboy (Post 21038250)
They have to say that.

Regardless, the point is that we don't know, as of yet, why he pulled out. I've heard of two theories (rumors) so far:

1. He didn't like his TT bike.
2. He didn't want to work for Vincenzo Nibali, in order to save his legs for the stage 13 TT.


Seems to me that either scenario is an issue of him failing to meet his contractual obligations and lead to legal problems, but that's just speculation...


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Rajflyboy 07-22-19 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by AnthonyG (Post 21038527)
Bahrain Merida has Vincenzo Nibali on the team riding the same bikes. Whatever the issue is I'm rather disappointed in Rohan for just pulling out like that and unfortunately I don't see it as a good long term career move.

Yes

other teams will think twice about picking this guy up next year

see his career in the dueshes I think

slcbob 07-23-19 03:56 AM

Who are the Bill Belichick / Phil Jackson types of the UCI World Tour? The ones that can take the problem children and riff raff of the league and have them get on board?

Rohan is in the TT rainbow jersey. He'll find a ride for next year. Maybe it costs him a few wallabies in negotiating position. I bet he gets a good bike, though.

If he keeps his mouth shut and doesn't write the winning testimony for the prosecution, he'll survive whatever contract dispute nonsense there is.

He's prickly personality, or so everyone is now saying as background to say something about this incident, but he's no Bouhani.

nomadmax 07-23-19 04:36 AM

Continuing to ride on what you consider to be "poor equipment" nets you a better chance of winning than quitting a job you agreed to do.

SpinClassSara 07-23-19 11:56 AM

He's a terrible example for the kids !!!

Stratocaster 07-23-19 12:08 PM

What brand bike was he riding?
I ask because the next time someone asks "which bike should I buy?" on this forum, we can give him the brand NOT to buy. :roflmao2:


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