Recumbent advantages
Ive been reading posts about how recumbent are slower on the hills by all the upright riders out there... its true they can be slower on the hills but the uprights refuse to admit how much more aero they are .....I've passed many a paceline on my recumbent.... it seems upright riders can't achieve any real speed or distance solo because of the grossly un aero riding position they ride in.. uprights are better on the hills but recumbent are better on the rest of the road
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Plus you have the comfort and the view. I have both a recumbent and a trike. Any more I almost always ride the trike while in town. No unclipping when you stop, and no wobbling around trying to clip in when you ride off. The fact is a trike has to be the most relaxing way to cycle there is.
I find it amazing how many people are still wed to the 1890 DF bike design. It of course is good for single tracking and mountain biking. |
Df bikes riders ride in such an un aero position..... that's why the need to shed every gram possible
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Design
Originally Posted by rydabent
(Post 20706943)
Plus you have the comfort and the view. I have both a recumbent and a trike. Any more I almost always ride the trike while in town. No unclipping when you stop, and no wobbling around trying to clip in when you ride off. The fact is a trike has to be the most relaxing way to cycle there is.
I find it amazing how many people are still wed to the 1890 DF bike design. It of course is good for single tracking and mountain biking. |
Originally Posted by rossiny
(Post 20707541)
I always wondered about how the design has not changed much. Just the materials the frame , etc is made from.
It would be interesting to see what might have been if the UCI never adopted these restrictive rules. I'd guess that we'd be seeing a lot more bent riders. |
If restrictive rules were applied to cars trains and airplanes, we would be driving Model Ts, riding trains with steam engines, and flying bi-wing planes.
But the UCI who was bought off by DF MFGs needs only to understand that if riders had a choice, it would be equal if all riders could chose the type of bike for the terrain. |
Uci is ridiculous..... all df bikes are essentially the same no differences other than material or manufacturing process.......rediculous riding position for guys trying to go fast....sooo much air drag
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How come I get passed by so many DF's, then? Ridden by men, women and children, it would seem. In spite of my aero advantage. :lol:
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Originally Posted by robnol
(Post 20706422)
Ive been reading posts about how recumbent are slower on the hills by all the upright riders out there...
Originally Posted by robnol
(Post 20706422)
uprights are better on the hills
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That's why uprights use the paceline to achieve speed and overcome all the air drag... one guy works hard while the others rest waiting for their turn at the front of the line.....
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Why u get passéd by df riders Is something only u can tell why...,. no amount of aero will make up for a lack of leg muscles or ability
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I always figured that my lowracer was the equivalent of a 3-man paceline of uprights. So, 1-on-1 is my advantage; 5-on-1 is theirs. I've done a 5-on-5 once; we dropped the uprights on a climb. One of them inched past me about 2/3 up, but collapsed into the ditch as soon as he cleared my bike. It was comical.
Most recumbents, including trikes, do not enjoy any aero advantage over a good upright road bike. |
The body is 80%of all air drag.....a lowracers frontal profile is tiny compared to an upright
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Originally Posted by rydabent
(Post 20708194)
If restrictive rules were applied to cars trains and airplanes, we would be driving Model Ts, riding trains with steam engines, and flying bi-wing planes.
But the UCI who was bought off by DF MFGs needs only to understand that if riders had a choice, it would be equal if all riders could chose the type of bike for the terrain. It frankly strikes me as a bit far-fetched that UCI rules which only apply to the tiny fraction of bike riders who engage in the highest levels of racing has somehow prevented new designs of the vast majority of bikes that are sold from the big-box outlets - or even of the smaller volume of sales from bike shops which still would only rarely have customers who are restricted by UCI rules. |
A test for the upright riders here. What is the Hour record for an unfaired bike?
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Originally Posted by robnol
(Post 20708796)
Uci is ridiculous..... all df bikes are essentially the same no differences other than material or manufacturing process.......rediculous riding position for guys trying to go fast....sooo much air drag
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Originally Posted by BlazingPedals
(Post 20709424)
A test for the upright riders here. What is the Hour record for an unfaired bike?
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Its half the recumbent time
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Wiggins holds the current UCI record at 54.526 Km. Matthias Konig, a virtual nobody in the cycling world, has 2 recorded times for the Hour that beat Wiggins: 56.696 Km and 57.637 Km. Both were on an M5 highracer. Why is Wiggins in the book under "Unified Hour Record?" Wiggins did it on a bike, Konig did not.
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Originally Posted by BlazingPedals
(Post 20710173)
Wiggins did it on a bike, Konig did not.
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Uci is a joke...... the object of a bike race is to go as fast as possible... why does it matter if its on an upright or recumbent
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Originally Posted by robnol
(Post 20711748)
Uci is a joke...... the object of a bike race is to go as fast as possible... why does it matter if its on an upright or recumbent
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Really u can't tell the difference between a car race and a bicycle race... were talking about a riding position not fully fairing bikes.... upright df riders need to admit that their riding position is not the fastest
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Originally Posted by robnol
(Post 20712387)
upright df riders need to admit that their riding position is not the fastest
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
(Post 20712314)
How is that any different than NASCAR or formula 1?
As a long time recumbent rider (15 years), I'm often amazed that this is even a topic except to breed animosity between recumbentists and upright riders who really don't care until goaded into it. |
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