Originally Posted by unterhausen
(Post 21133063)
It's really sad that people feel this way when the main beneficiary of this kind of trails are the people that live along it.
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Sometimes you see eerie rock formations from an MUP. Kind of looks like a face.
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Originally Posted by MNebiker
(Post 21132208)
can come up with something new and different. What is the strange NEW thing you have encountered on the trails...
Zagster - local bike-share - against the odds is becoming more and more popular. There is a microbrewery near the trailhead, that I've ridden by every day for about 6 years and never stopped. A fledgeling cyclist/hipster scene is developing around the shaded tables out front; I suspect they dress up, get on the Greenway for a mile or two, then soak up the ambience for an hour. |
I still take them as a positive overall. When on them I relegate it to a slow cut thru with obstacles.
What we need to address is an epidemic of “American exceptionalism and entitlement syndrome” among the MUP users. It’s a bunch of FYIGM attitudes out there. |
One route that I take goes along a creek/estuary, and the rowing club has their dock
and clubhouse on either sides of the path. Sometimes have to dodge racing shells crossing. Also watch out for fishing back-casts. |
My local MUP the CoCoCanal trail has a yearly tradition that always makes me smile. A local kindergarten writes all their graduates names on the trail. In chalk and alphabetic order. This year it was Alexis through to Victoria. I’ve never seen the actual writing ceremony. It’s a short walk from the school to the path. After the first rain or two it’s already erased and ready for next year. Good luck little guys!
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Originally Posted by unterhausen
(Post 21133063)
there have been plans for a long rural mup near here that keep getting put off because people don't want the trail across their property fearing that people from State College will come out and cause problems. OTOH, at the other end of the valley there is a rail trail that is widely loved. And I have been on other rural rail trails that are major recreation areas in the communities nearby. It's really sad that people feel this way when the main beneficiary of this kind of trails are the people that live along it. And anyway, the flow of crime is actually the other way around, rural folks come to State College to commit crimes, because it's more of a target rich area. What is going to happen, someone might steal a hay bale?
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Relatively speaking, this whole area is zero crime. We leave our doors unlocked, for example. The idea that there is some criminal element that will leave town and go steal things from people who mostly own hay bales is a bit ridiculous. Other than alcohol related offenses and other stupid things students do, our serious crime is virtually all committed by transients and people from rural areas that come into town. They could just as well steal hay bales on the way into town.
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My town is relatively low crime, for being a mid sized city and all. Our rural areas are not exactly crime free, but crimes and injuries tend to involve alcohol, drugs, firearms, and internal combustion engines, none of which are in abundance on MUPs. I have a hypothesis that criminals are lazy and cowardly, so they're unlikely to choose cycling as their mode of transportation. A friend of mine is a state prosecutor, and the rural areas keep him plenty busy.
Our MUPs are great. Sometimes you have to slow down for other users, and that's just fine. Slowing down should be part of good bike handling skills anyway. That's what brakes are for. Returning to your cruising speed is what legs are for. My main gripes have to do with riding the paths at night. Folks should be more courteous about having really bright lights on the MUPs. Also, joggers should make some effort to be visible. The Madison Ninja Joggers tend to wear all black from head to toe, and they're all wearing earbuds as well. It's mainly a problem when the time changes in the fall, because it's suddenly dark. Within a few weeks, the cold weather will take care of them. |
Nope. Not ever riding a city/county MUP again, for ALL of the reasons the OP noted. And even though I've been a member of Rails-to-Trails since they started in 1986, I have yet to ride on one. MAYBE I'd ride on a rural one, but not where there are Trail Toads clogging them up. I my normal riding pace is anywhere between 17-21mph, and I refuse to slow down to our local MUP speed limit of 8mph.
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Originally Posted by Gresp15C
(Post 21133605)
Sometimes you have to slow down for other users, and that's just fine. Slowing down should be part of good bike handling skills anyway. That's what brakes are for. Returning to your cruising speed is what legs are for. |
Originally Posted by Cougrrcj
(Post 21133680)
Nope. Not ever riding a city/county MUP again, for ALL of the reasons the OP noted. And even though I've been a member of Rails-to-Trails since they started in 1986, I have yet to ride on one. MAYBE I'd ride on a rural one, but not where there are Trail Toads clogging them up. I my normal riding pace is anywhere between 17-21mph, and I refuse to slow down to our local MUP speed limit of 8mph.
I find that it's hit or miss whether an urban street will be more or less clogged than an urban MUP, and it's a lot less pleasant to get stuck behind and between Amazon vans, postal jeeps, city buses and people who like to double park. There's really no MUP with a higher speed limit where you are? That's effectively a "no bike commuting" rule. Defeats one of the major purposes. |
Originally Posted by unterhausen
(Post 21133063)
there have been plans for a long rural mup near here that keep getting put off because people don't want the trail across their property fearing that people from State College will come out and cause problems. OTOH, at the other end of the valley there is a rail trail that is widely loved. And I have been on other rural rail trails that are major recreation areas in the communities nearby. It's really sad that people feel this way when the main beneficiary of this kind of trails are the people that live along it. And anyway, the flow of crime is actually the other way around, rural folks come to State College to commit crimes, because it's more of a target rich area. What is going to happen, someone might steal a hay bale?
Cheers Cheers |
I like the idea OP!
I'd like to see discussion of singing out loud while using the MUP, and also issues with body odor. Plus, I think to keep this entertaining the discussion should include a prodigious use of asterisks such as:
Originally Posted by MNebiker
(Post 21132208)
Here's my nomination to open the list: Two weeks ago I encountered a young lady who had spread out her ***** ***** and was ********** on the trail.
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Originally Posted by sheddle
(Post 21133220)
It's an actual studied phenomenon that the people most scared of crime are people who live in areas with very little crime. It's one of those things that has effects like not building trails or transit lines to rural zero-crime areas because some local politician riles up the local voters about how all the "urban criminals" will apparently use them to come to Haverbock to do crimes or something.
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Most of what I am getting from this is we have an overbreeding/overpopulated/humans as an invasive species issue.
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A couple of shots from the Route of the Hiawatha Trail. That particular tunnel is 1.66 miles long, unlit and has water dripping from the ceiling. Cool stuff.https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8abecf366b.jpghttps://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...048ca5c506.jpg
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I just discovered a new train near here yesterday. The state prison owned some land that was prime fishing area, and gave it to the local government. There had been a singletrack, but now it's a wide cinder trail. Very nice. I suppose there are probably some mountain bikers that miss the singletrack, it was fun. But I'm sure this trail will be used by a lot more people.
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What is a MUP trail?
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Originally Posted by Rajflyboy
(Post 21134166)
What is a MUP trail?
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This little fellow was along a MUP two years ago. I spooked him and he swam across the creek.
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Originally Posted by Humpy
(Post 21133834)
I like the idea OP!
I'd like to see discussion of singing out loud while using the MUP, and also issues with body odor. Plus, I think to keep this entertaining the discussion should include a prodigious use of asterisks such as: Like I said, more entertainment than the Sunday funnies. |
Will take all the annoyances of the MUP any day, vs riding with the cars and trucks. Also painfully discovered that after years of being around jet engines, I can no longer hear the little bells some cyclist like to use. Have never missed an, “on your left”, call though. At least my bike was rideable after the collision, other guy had to walk.
Tim |
One of the paths I bike regularly has people fishing on it. Most of the time they sit on or near the bank to do this. Sometimes they park their camping chairs all across the path with the fishing lines stretching completely across the width of the path. Sometimes you can ride around. Sometimes you're forced to say excuse me and walk your bike thru.
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Originally Posted by MNebiker
(Post 21132208)
So - let's see if we can come up with something new and different.
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