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datlas 09-18-20 06:42 AM

Show Me Your EXTERNAL Di2 Setup!
 
Gang,

I am considering drinking the kool-aid and upgrading my mechanical Ultegra 6700 to Di2. However, my Habanero is NOT set up for internal shifter cables/wires so everything will have to be external (battery/junction box/wires etc). The few external Di2 setups I have seen look fugly with zip-ties etc., but I am hopeful that it could be done without being too ugly.

Anyone have this done and have advice? Pics are appreciated.

And please don't tell me to get my frame drilled, I am not interested in that. And eTap is too pricey.

Ghazmh 09-18-20 07:45 AM

It will look fugly. Save up a few more dollars and get the Etap.

abshipp 09-18-20 07:58 AM

Paging RiddleOfSteel didn't you DI2 your Prologue?

Koyote 09-18-20 08:39 AM

External Di2? That's only acceptable if you dress like this:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...74c25b4595.png

datlas 09-18-20 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Ghazmh (Post 21700371)
It will look fugly. Save up a few more dollars and get the Etap.

It's an option. Also waiting for the "next generation" Di2 that MIGHT be wireless shifters (and wires just to FD/RD/Battery) is a consideration.

But I am not getting any younger and don't want to wait forever. I could likely afford the current Ultegra Di2 using my current crankset which would be much more affordable.

Cyclist0108 09-18-20 11:33 AM

What is wrong with getting the frame drilled? (I am thinking of doing that with a Soma Saga, which is why I ask.)

Also, if you want to save some money, you can get the first gen Ultegra hydraulic Di2 levers for $199 from Universal Cycles. I have these (from 2014) and they are great.

Ogsarg 09-18-20 12:33 PM

I've never seen a DI2 setup with exposed wires but if I was going to do it, maybe add some colored shrink tubing to the wires.

colored shrink tube

jadocs 09-18-20 12:41 PM

I saw a post on FB where a guy installed Di2 on his Colnago Master and drilled the frame to run internal wires. I was shocked at what a great job he did. The attention to detail made it look factory.

Cyclist0108 09-18-20 01:16 PM

Calfee will do this, fwiw.

bahula03 09-18-20 02:10 PM

These things will be your friend- https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/produ...2/SM-EWC2.html

If your frame doesn't have provisions for an external battery (which is a very specific vintage of bike at this point), you're stuck with something like the water bottle mount that's pretty unappealing aesthetically IMO.

It's frustrating that Force AXS eTap requires a new crankset and probably new rear hub, because the levers+derailleurs are (I think) about the same cost as Ultegra, and that's a much better solution.

datlas 09-18-20 04:46 PM

I asked the frame builder about drilling and he recommends against it.

Upgrading to etap is going to cost 2k which is ridiculous IMO.

I will probably just keep what I have for now.

Bah Humbug 09-18-20 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 21701364)
I asked the frame builder about drilling and he recommends against it.

Upgrading to etap is going to cost 2k which is ridiculous IMO.

I will probably just keep what I have for now.

We seem to have arrived at this conclusion before.

I'm still curious why he recommends against drilling; it's not a rare thing.

datlas 09-18-20 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21701370)
We seem to have arrived at this conclusion before.

I'm still curious why he recommends against drilling; it's not a rare thing.

Here is cut/paste of his comments on why drilling frame is not recommended:


I would hesitate to drill holes for the Di2 cables - your frame has the
svelte 32mm down tube, and that would make me a little nervous, as
it would tend to form a stress riser that could lead to a failure. There's
also the problem of how to poke a big enough hole in the bottom
bracket shell to allow placement of the junction box in the down tube
(it would be really, really fiddly).

momoman 09-18-20 05:06 PM

My friend sold me his 1st gen. Di2 for $300. Here are pictures of my external set up using the Shimano adhesive back cable covers.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7c135a3110.jpg
Zip tied the upper junction box to the brake cable
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3601a85e68.jpg
Battery pack is mounted under the downtube bottle cage
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...387332d3af.jpg
The lower junction box
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...61fe21c663.jpg
The RD cable is secured on the inside of the rear stay with the Shimano cable cover
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...042d94218a.jpg
The rear RD cable comes out from the backside of the rear stay
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7e52819c03.jpg
The exposed cables weren't taped down. They don't move.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...69c11263eb.jpg
The downtube cable is hidden under the black Shimano cable cover

surak 09-18-20 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Koyote (Post 21700461)
External Di2? That's only acceptable if you dress like this:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...74c25b4595.png

Two weeks back I was riding along the MUP and saw an older guy riding wearing a long sleeve jersey... and Assos Cento bibs over it. I really couldn't work out why he'd do that, other than Assos' silly graphics on the bib straps confusing him into thinking they should be proudly displayed.

Cyclist0108 09-18-20 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 21701378)
There's
also the problem of how to poke a big enough hole in the bottom
bracket shell to allow placement of the junction box in the down tube
(it would be really, really fiddly).

I don't know what you have, but I don't have room for a 30mm spindle in my BSA bottom bracket with the Di2 wires in there.

LAJ 09-18-20 06:53 PM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a85b6e485.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...182fe2c01.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...12a145700.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6d1fb93f1.jpeg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c03035cb6.jpeg

GlennR 09-18-20 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by LA (Post 21701554)

That's a big ugly battery.
Oh.. wrong topic.

datlas 09-18-20 07:21 PM

That actually looks pretty good. It’s a hybrid internal/external. Thanks for posting.

abshipp 09-19-20 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 21700274)
Anyone have this done and have advice? Pics are appreciated.

I found this searching through the "Retro Roadies" thread in C&V - the saddle battery mount looks really nice IMO, but no details about wire routing.

User hasn't logged on since February of this year, but maybe they would respond to a PM?

Bah Humbug 09-19-20 10:39 AM

Always fun seeing a November, but that one is funny given their #anythingbutblack campaign.

SSRI 09-19-20 11:22 AM

r9150 on a Master Light

????×**********??COLNAGO MASTER X-LIGHT?Di2****************************************Y'sRoad PORTAL

LAJ 09-19-20 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21702394)
Always fun seeing a November, but that one is funny given their #anythingbutblack campaign.

Indeed. It may have been intentional......

datlas 09-19-20 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 21702343)
I found this searching through the "Retro Roadies" thread in C&V - the saddle battery mount looks really nice IMO, but no details about wire routing.

User hasn't logged on since February of this year, but maybe they would respond to a PM?

That actually looks pretty good, all things considered. Thanks!

Rides4Beer 09-19-20 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by GlennR (Post 21701563)
That's a big ugly battery.
Oh.. wrong topic.

Yup, def ugly, SRAM batteries are a close second. :thumb:


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