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02-15-21, 09:07 AM
Replies: 191
Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

That's an... odd... conclusion to draw from a...

That's an... odd... conclusion to draw from a study that performs a bunch of anaerobic tests in order to compare anaerobic work done on a bike with anaerobic work in the weight room. A far more...
02-14-21, 06:32 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYvfkBRZllk ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYvfkBRZllk

Just released today. Apparently Alex Dowsett thinks there's value to strength training too (but he did stop during training camp).
02-14-21, 06:27 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

By your own statements, your anaerobic energy...

By your own statements, your anaerobic energy system is producing > 50% of the work for the first 40 seconds, and is still producing a close to half after 40 seconds. Unless you're not counting that...
02-14-21, 06:15 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

You're arguing a stawman here. You do realise...

You're arguing a stawman here. You do realise that right? I don't think any reasonable person would suggest that sport-specific training is not the most important thing. It's quite clear that all the...
02-10-21, 03:51 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

You do understand that there is a relationship...

You do understand that there is a relationship between force and power right? Power is just force times velocity.

I mean, really, this whole post is to nonsensical to bother replying to in detail.
02-10-21, 03:43 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

That's moving the goal posts somewhat since we...

That's moving the goal posts somewhat since we weren't necessarily talking about a road race. But yes, it probably would help.
But, I'll point out from the linked article in the other thread, Sagan...
02-10-21, 03:38 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

Why not do both? Again I'll point out: ...

Why not do both? Again I'll point out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtYV35jFmks

Every one of these guys is lifting, and lifting regularly.
02-10-21, 07:49 AM
Replies: 191
Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

A higher maximum strength allows one to do...

A higher maximum strength allows one to do sub-maximal efforts more often. A person who squats 405 can do more reps with 300 than someone who squats 315. A person who's 5 second power is 2000 watts...
02-10-21, 07:43 AM
Replies: 191
Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

Wrong. Getting stronger would absolutely improve...

Wrong. Getting stronger would absolutely improve both my 1 and 1.5 minute power.


What's the other 50%? Where was the energy coming from for the first 3/4 of the race? Why do you think that...
02-09-21, 08:54 AM
Replies: 191
Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

There really isn't any debate about strength...

There really isn't any debate about strength training improving power over short durations. One need only compare the riders here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtYV35jFmks with those in the World...
02-09-21, 08:36 AM
Replies: 191
Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

Looking at it in a non-literal way: here...

Looking at it in a non-literal way: here endurance improved far more than here high end power. This happens when you get old, and as per the professor of sport science in the video I posted, a loss...
02-09-21, 08:31 AM
Replies: 191
Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

Basic human physiology. I mean come on. You're...

Basic human physiology.
I mean come on. You're a smart guy. I'm sure you've noticed that events that are significantly anaerobic in nature tend to feature bigger stronger athletes than ones that are...
02-08-21, 02:44 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

The more I think about this, the more silly of a...

The more I think about this, the more silly of a comment I think it is.

If I go from being able to hold x watts for 1 minute to being able to hold x watts for 2 minutes, there's absolutely no way...
02-08-21, 02:41 PM
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Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

This is just wrong.

This is just wrong.
02-08-21, 02:28 PM
Replies: 191
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Posted By OBoile

I'm not suggesting that they're doing a bunch...

I'm not suggesting that they're doing a bunch 5x5s or anything like that. What strength work would be done likely wouldn't be a significant drain on recovery. Enough that it wouldn't be done during a...
02-08-21, 01:51 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

I'm sure there are pros that never do any...

I'm sure there are pros that never do any strength work. That's why I'm not 100% sold on it either. But it does seem to be the majority do at this point. Certainly most coaches that one hears about...
02-08-21, 01:33 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

I agree with this 100%. But, this isn't what...

I agree with this 100%.

But, this isn't what that cube guy was saying. He's talking about climbing a 20% gradient while seated and implying that the limiting factor was his maximum strength rather...
02-08-21, 01:27 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

Definitely still strength training. Are they...

Definitely still strength training. Are they doing it during the classics, yes I imagine they are. In the middle of a 3 week stage race, probably not. I would image it is done in training camps. I...
02-08-21, 12:06 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

Sure, but if that's the case, then endurance was...

Sure, but if that's the case, then endurance was his issue when going up a steep hill.
If you're not *strong* enough to pedal up a 20% gradient in a 34-32 gear, how are you able to walk up stairs?
02-08-21, 12:03 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

Your core musculature wasn't taxed beyond it's...

Your core musculature wasn't taxed beyond it's ability previously. Cycling, while seated in particular, isn't exactly strenuous on ones core.
02-08-21, 08:14 AM
Replies: 191
Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

My understanding is that most pros strength...

My understanding is that most pros strength train, and do so year round. There are certainly many prominent coaches who support the idea. But there are also those who don't.

While what Rubick says...
02-08-21, 07:54 AM
Replies: 191
Views: 6,834
Posted By OBoile

When sitting in the saddle, you're not using...

When sitting in the saddle, you're not using anywhere near the maximum amount of force that your muscles can produce. Whatever allowed you to do this, it almost certainly wasn't strength training.
02-07-21, 01:42 PM
Replies: 106
Views: 4,133
Posted By OBoile

Here's another good one:...

Here's another good one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XweE8wFI0G0&fbclid=IwAR0gQoASWjeBS618QSJemrdqE45RkFJC6cme36NcBa1iBtATUn6tU9xW5M0
Jasper is a strong guy.

Here's Stephen Seiler talking...
02-07-21, 10:13 AM
Replies: 106
Views: 4,133
Posted By OBoile

What?!? Are you implying that if someone were to...

What?!? Are you implying that if someone were to go to the gym and only do leg presses, they wouldn't get stronger legs because they didn't do any upper body work? You are aware that earlier in this...
02-07-21, 10:08 AM
Replies: 106
Views: 4,133
Posted By OBoile

Actually both matter. Assuming one's form doesn't...

Actually both matter. Assuming one's form doesn't change, progress is measured by how much you lift.
This is not important at all with respect to recovery.
Things like: aren't worthy of taking the...
02-05-21, 08:26 AM
Replies: 106
Views: 4,133
Posted By OBoile

There's been a lot of silly stuff posted in this...

There's been a lot of silly stuff posted in this thread, but this is by far the worst.
11-26-20, 05:35 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 3,155
Posted By OBoile

I'll do you one better. I'm 155, I went for a run...

I'll do you one better. I'm 155, I went for a run today. My knees feel fine.
11-26-20, 04:04 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 3,155
Posted By OBoile

You should see a doctor. If you're getting pain...

You should see a doctor. If you're getting pain that easily, there is something clearly wrong with you.
11-25-20, 08:48 AM
Replies: 45
Views: 3,155
Posted By OBoile

Less pain (where are you even getting pain from?)...

Less pain (where are you even getting pain from?) and less injury are very, very debatable.
Being light is good for managing heat. This is true. But you're a good 20 lbs away from being light.
11-24-20, 02:26 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 3,155
Posted By OBoile

This. Wout Van Aert and Filippo Ganna both won...

This. Wout Van Aert and Filippo Ganna both won multiple grand tour stages (plus victories in other road races and/or on the track) while Rohan Dennis pretty much won the Giro for Geoghegan Hart on...
11-23-20, 09:18 AM
Replies: 45
Views: 3,155
Posted By OBoile

at 5'8" and 118 lbs, you're about 60 lbs away...

at 5'8" and 118 lbs, you're about 60 lbs away from being able to say you have "beefy" anything.
Forum: Road Cycling
10-29-20, 05:30 PM
Replies: 340
Views: 16,581
Posted By OBoile

It's amazing the lengths that some people will go...

It's amazing the lengths that some people will go to in order to justify their aversion to new technology.
10-21-20, 07:58 PM
Replies: 78
Views: 11,995
Posted By OBoile

Remco has proven he can TT with the best. ...

Remco has proven he can TT with the best.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/world-championship-itt/2019/result/result
10-21-20, 08:02 AM
Replies: 78
Views: 11,995
Posted By OBoile

I can't believe you think being a good domestique...

I can't believe you think being a good domestique is more impressive than winning multiple races including the GC in stage races and/or monuments (not to mention the guy who actually win the Tour)....
10-20-20, 09:27 PM
Replies: 78
Views: 11,995
Posted By OBoile

How many races has Kuss won this year? Are you...

How many races has Kuss won this year? Are you seriously trying to say he's been better than Pogacar? Or Evenepoel or MVDP who both have multiple wins one of which was a monument? Kuss has been a...
10-19-20, 08:44 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 2,188
Posted By OBoile

Doge doesn't think through many of the things he...

Doge doesn't think through many of the things he posts.
10-19-20, 07:33 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 2,188
Posted By OBoile

Really? Simon won a grand tour in 2018. I'm not...

Really? Simon won a grand tour in 2018. I'm not sure how you can say he isn't the type that could win. Particularly since this field wasn't exactly full of elite riders.
Furthermore, he was getting...
10-10-20, 05:38 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 2,188
Posted By OBoile

It certainly explains his poor performance. I...

It certainly explains his poor performance. I wonder how often he gets tested... he's likely had it for a while. That's a pretty hazardous work environment right now.
09-22-20, 03:45 PM
Replies: 43
Views: 3,793
Posted By OBoile

Interestingly, you can screw on the Bolt. I think...

Interestingly, you can screw on the Bolt. I think that is mainly to prevent theft in triathlons when your bike is sitting in transition. But, it also could technically mean that it can't be removed...
09-19-20, 08:13 PM
Replies: 314
Views: 15,889
Posted By OBoile

This. Some people don't seem to understand that...

This. Some people don't seem to understand that cycling is a team sport. These guys were teammates. They're supposed to be cooperating.
09-08-20, 03:08 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 4,478
Posted By OBoile

That's a lot of desperation.

That's a lot of desperation.
09-07-20, 07:36 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 4,478
Posted By OBoile

It's amazing how desperate some people are to...

It's amazing how desperate some people are to avoid accepting the truth: disk brakes work better.
09-06-20, 08:33 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 4,478
Posted By OBoile

The time to change disk brakes is like 1-2...

The time to change disk brakes is like 1-2 seconds longer. It's not really a persuasive argument anymore.
09-06-20, 01:36 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 4,478
Posted By OBoile

It's amazing how desperate some people are to...

It's amazing how desperate some people are to avoid accepting the truth: disk brakes work better.
09-01-20, 07:30 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,278
Posted By OBoile

I've had flobikes (I'm in Canada) for several...

I've had flobikes (I'm in Canada) for several years. It's pretty good year round. You quickly realize that while the tour may be the biggest deal, it often isn't the most exciting race. There are...
08-16-20, 07:08 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 1,238
Posted By OBoile

With how many people are crashing, Froome and...

With how many people are crashing, Froome and Thomas may be the only ones left by the end of the Tour.

In all seriousness, I think you're right. They don't look ready.
08-12-20, 08:30 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 1,238
Posted By OBoile

He did not look good today. Couldn't hang with a...

He did not look good today. Couldn't hang with a fairly large peloton on the last climb.
08-12-20, 11:45 AM
Replies: 69
Views: 7,510
Posted By OBoile

I hadn't really thought of this before, but...

I hadn't really thought of this before, but totally I experience this too. If I'm with other people, my power will generally stay high as I'm focused on keeping up. But, when I'm by myself, it's very...
08-12-20, 11:34 AM
Replies: 69
Views: 7,510
Posted By OBoile

That's what I have. FWIW as a point of...

That's what I have.
FWIW as a point of comparison, Strava would estimate ~115 watts on my commute. Riding at roughly the same effort,but on my bike with the PM, I'd average ~185.
08-12-20, 08:56 AM
Replies: 69
Views: 7,510
Posted By OBoile

Strava's power estimates are terrible. It doesn't...

Strava's power estimates are terrible. It doesn't account for wind, road surface, position on the bike, clothes you're wearing etc. I wouldn't take those very seriously.

Having said that, your...
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