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05-21-19, 11:36 AM
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Posted By Rides4Beer

That's the one I'm looking at, I really like that...

That's the one I'm looking at, I really like that orange! I have a hard time spending more than that on a bike too, got spoiled with the great deal I got on my Fuji. lol The frame on the 2 is the...
05-20-19, 01:45 PM
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Views: 21,769
Posted By indyfabz

A frame materials thread gets you guys every...

A frame materials thread gets you guys every time. It's like Lucy with the football.
05-20-19, 01:45 PM
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Posted By 79pmooney

I just spent a weekend riding 70 miles of gravel,...

I just spent a weekend riding 70 miles of gravel, 5000' up and down on my Peter Mooney as a celebration if it turning 40. Sweet ride! Didn't envy the guys riding their new gravel bikes costing far...
05-20-19, 12:11 PM
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Posted By fietsbob

Hub is part of drivetrain compatibility,, lots of...

Hub is part of drivetrain compatibility,, lots of rims ,
drop by the bike shop and see what they can get..

hand built wheels are nice.., but ordering a wheel built
by the wholesale supplier to...
05-20-19, 12:01 PM
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Posted By jlaw

And... Ti is Fly! ....better get back...

And...

Ti is Fly!

....better get back to work before this degenerates further!
https://salsacycles.com/files/bikes/_small_image/22563_SAL_Fargo_Ti_Carousel-1.jpg
05-20-19, 11:42 AM
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Posted By Lemond1985

Good read.

Good read.
05-20-19, 11:37 AM
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Posted By fietsbob

+1, Supple compliant, expensive , tires from...

+1, Supple compliant, expensive , tires from Compass / Rene Herse cycles (https://www.renehersecycles.com/)
...
05-20-19, 11:35 AM
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Posted By Rajflyboy

https://www.pezcyclingnews.com/interviews/tom-ritc...

https://www.pezcyclingnews.com/interviews/tom-ritchey-road-logic-review/

this guy is the king of Steel
05-20-19, 11:19 AM
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Posted By fietsbob

Ever dropped it on your Foot? gets Real then..

A steel frame can be made without a major expenditure on machinery,

and so is within reach of the individual builder..

On my Bike tour in England , 1991, , I happened across a fellow had a rack...
05-20-19, 11:17 AM
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Posted By TimothyH

Lots of ignorance in this thread. Modern...

Lots of ignorance in this thread.

Modern steel tubing can be made into frames with any ride characteristics desired, as stiff and responsive as you want, and surprisingly light.

Crappy carbon...
05-20-19, 11:16 AM
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Posted By JohnDThompson

And indeed it has, e.g. modern, weldable,...

And indeed it has, e.g. modern, weldable, air-hardening alloys like Reynolds 853 and martensitic-aging stainless steel alloy Reynolds 953.
05-20-19, 10:58 AM
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Posted By Kapusta

CF made sense to me when I was running rock hard...

CF made sense to me when I was running rock hard 23-25mm tires. I liked how it damped the vibrations. But once I started running 32-38mm tires at low pressure, the vibrations are not really an issue,...
05-20-19, 10:57 AM
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Posted By ddeand

As mentioned earlier, it’s merely a catch-phrase...

As mentioned earlier, it’s merely a catch-phrase that carries a tinge of snobbish weight. Basically an iteration of “Look at me, I’m retro and therefore I’m cool.” Mind you, I’m only referring to the...
05-20-19, 10:17 AM
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Posted By mstateglfr

Couldnt put bar tape on because that would have...

Couldnt put bar tape on because that would have pushed it over the 20.0 barrier, i guess.
05-20-19, 10:00 AM
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Posted By Phil_gretz

Similar Question...

could be asked on a oenophile or sommelier web forum comparing good enough box wines from Costo with an exquisite vintage. Some folks may never have the capacity or opportunity to get it.

Why...
05-20-19, 09:58 AM
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Posted By Maelochs

My favorite color is fastest and it sounds the...

My favorite color is fastest and it sounds the best, too.
05-20-19, 09:57 AM
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Posted By TimothyH

The same company makes sub 14 lb road bikes and...

The same company makes sub 14 lb road bikes and 26 lb steel tandems.

My entire point is that the idea that it is impossible to make light, strong and stiff steel bikes simply isn't true.


-Tim-
05-20-19, 09:48 AM
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Posted By Lemond1985

Does that mean Bamboo is **** You? ...

Does that mean Bamboo is **** You?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5rlcBffaHPM/Te72kaT_pKI/AAAAAAAAADc/Ve0x8EKCiYw/s1600/bamboo2_1455249c.jpg
05-20-19, 09:43 AM
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Posted By DorkDisk

If chromoly were discovered today, it would be...

If chromoly were discovered today, it would be hailed the greatest material.
05-20-19, 09:40 AM
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Posted By jlaw

Steel is real, but.. Wood is Good. ...

Steel is real, but..

Wood is Good.

https://media.mnn.com/assets/images/2011/10/gall_renovobike.jpg.638x0_q80_crop-smart.jpg
05-20-19, 09:36 AM
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Posted By TimothyH

Modern production of steel tubes allows stiffness...

Modern production of steel tubes allows stiffness and flex to be controlled. Tube shape, butting profiles and construction can make a frame as flexy or stiff as anyone wants. It is expensive and a...
05-20-19, 09:28 AM
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Posted By Maelochs

In other words, people are using a catch phrase...

In other words, people are using a catch phrase to amplify their personal preferences.
05-20-19, 09:13 AM
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Posted By bakerjw

Not to derail the thread. My touring is on...

Not to derail the thread. My touring is on environments like the Tour Divide. Anything from pavement to gravel road, to rutted jeep trails to horrid single track. It is also very minimal as the load...
05-20-19, 09:09 AM
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Posted By Jon T

This^^^^^EXACTLY! And just for the record--not...

This^^^^^EXACTLY! And just for the record--not everyone (myself included) is a weight-weenie.
Jon
05-20-19, 08:55 AM
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Posted By bakerjw

I find aluminum to be a harsh ride. Carbon is a...

I find aluminum to be a harsh ride.
Carbon is a bit softer until it isn't.
Steel is a smoother ride.

There are 2 kinds of steel frames. There are the cheap ones that are heavy as heck and then...
05-20-19, 08:52 AM
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Posted By Kovkov

There is no heavy bicycles there‘s only weak...

There is no heavy bicycles there‘s only weak riders :D
05-20-19, 08:04 AM
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Posted By fietsbob

generically

It is a way to put a motor on for covering ground ..

But for hills really you need mid drives* to gain gearing options offered by the rear wheel ..

* Retrofits, in place of the crankset..
05-20-19, 07:43 AM
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Posted By livedarklions

For fully loaded, the need for the front braze-on...

For fully loaded, the need for the front braze-on is obvious, good catch.

For those of us unversed in touring, are you suggesting that a newcomer should probably be looking at a triple if they're...
05-20-19, 07:35 AM
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Posted By mstateglfr

Your bike, the Toughroad SLR2, is heavier than...

Your bike, the Toughroad SLR2, is heavier than any quality modern steel road bike, and its also heavier than most of the mid-tier steel road bikes available. Just wanted to mention this since it...
05-20-19, 07:26 AM
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Posted By 55murray

Well, when I was a kid in the 70s most of what I...

Well, when I was a kid in the 70s most of what I owned was plastic, even the airguns at the time were getting into plastic stocks. All very prone to break and fail. But our bikes were all steel and...
05-20-19, 07:24 AM
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Posted By livedarklions

I have 2 aluminum bikes and a steel bike. I have...

I have 2 aluminum bikes and a steel bike. I have ridden multiple centuries on each of them. To be honest with you, I don't notice that much of a difference between how they ride, but I suspect...
05-20-19, 06:48 AM
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Posted By u235

I prefer a very rigid frame as the foundation and...

I prefer a very rigid frame as the foundation and get my compliance and comfort for the long haul from other things like tire choice and pressure. No real preference on the frame material as long as...
05-20-19, 06:38 AM
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Posted By Lemond1985

Steel doesn't beat you up on long rides the way...

Steel doesn't beat you up on long rides the way stiffer aluminum and CF frames do. Anytime I'm on my bike more that 3 hours or so, I prefer a steel frame, for comfort.

Performance-wise, I will...
05-20-19, 06:31 AM
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Posted By johnnyace

Wait, you mean there are bikes made with...

Wait, you mean there are bikes made with materials other than steel?
05-20-19, 06:25 AM
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Posted By jgwilliams

I was surprised by how light modern steel bikes...

I was surprised by how light modern steel bikes can be. This Holdsworth Strada 953 (https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBHOSTRR8000/holdsworth-strada-953-shimano-ultegra-r8000-road-bike) weighs in at ...
05-20-19, 06:19 AM
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Posted By Shimagnolo

One does not simply ride into iMortor

One does not simply ride into iMortor
05-20-19, 06:09 AM
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Posted By MoAlpha

It means that if someone bops you...

It means that if someone bops you enthusiastically across the occiput with a piece of SL tubing, the probability you'll get your bell rung greatly outweighs that of witnessing an apparent pantomime.
05-20-19, 05:48 AM
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Posted By Kapusta

If he is shilling, he is not very good at it. ...

If he is shilling, he is not very good at it.

One does not usually advertise one’s products by questioning its legitimacy and talking about how it is too expensive.
05-20-19, 05:45 AM
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Posted By Koyote

I've got steel-framed bikes, and I've got a...

I've got steel-framed bikes, and I've got a cf-framed bike. They all ride nicely - smooth, stiff enough, etc. The steel frames are slightly heavier, but not enough to make much difference.

As a...
05-20-19, 05:42 AM
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Posted By medic75

It is my understanding, and I may be wrong, that...

It is my understanding, and I may be wrong, that steel is much more resilient. Each bump, drop, rough road, etc. causes the frame to flex. Steel can supposedly be subjected to an infinite amount of...
05-20-19, 05:13 AM
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Posted By Kapusta

It rhymes better than “steel is sexy” I have...

It rhymes better than “steel is sexy”

I have never drooled over a CF or Al road or hardtail MTB frame.


I don’t know about road bikes, but in the mountain bike world, “steel is real” has been...
05-20-19, 05:07 AM
Replies: 271
Views: 21,769
Posted By indyfabz

Because they rhyme. Try that with carbon,...

Because they rhyme. Try that with carbon, aluminum or ti. :rolleyes:
05-20-19, 04:57 AM
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Posted By FlMTNdude

If you ever looked at entry level or slightly...

If you ever looked at entry level or slightly higher aluminium or carbon frames, and have been riding steel, the first major letdown is the weight. Steel frames with modern components do not take...
05-20-19, 04:26 AM
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Posted By Paul Barnard

It means that bikes shouldn't be made out of...

It means that bikes shouldn't be made out of fishing poles.
05-20-19, 03:30 AM
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Posted By ridelikeaturtle

My steel '97 Colnago is quite light, and it's not...

My steel '97 Colnago is quite light, and it's not their top-grade steel frame by about two or three levels - you can get a steel frame that's just as light as anything else (within a certain budget...
05-20-19, 03:18 AM
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Posted By Machka

I've been riding steel bicycles since I started...

I've been riding steel bicycles since I started cycling ... 1971.

I bought an aluminum bicycle in 2000 and traded it in on another in 2002. I still have that bicycle, but it is my trainer bike....
05-20-19, 02:56 AM
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Posted By John Young

Its just choices for people as each bike frame...

Its just choices for people as each bike frame material feels different to ride on and some like the feel of a steel bike. One thing I have found with my new bike with carbon forks is it feels more...
05-20-19, 02:26 AM
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Posted By ridelikeaturtle

If you're used to one type of frame material that...

If you're used to one type of frame material that isn't steel, or never had a steel bike (e.g. only aluminum or carbon bikes), then you should be pleasantly surprised by the different riding...
05-20-19, 02:15 AM
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Posted By Gconan

It means steel is still a viable material for...

It means steel is still a viable material for bike frames.
05-20-19, 02:12 AM
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Posted By krecik

Yh, I wonder as well. I guess it's the latest...

Yh, I wonder as well. I guess it's the latest edgy thing to go "Carbon frame? Pffft! Steel is real bro!"

But idk, Kret :)
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