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10-19-21, 07:32 AM
Replies: 67
Views: 6,734
Posted By Johnk3

Where are the speakers?

Where are the speakers?
10-18-21, 06:40 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 6,734
Posted By Johnk3

What is cheaper isn't the difference between...

What is cheaper isn't the difference between lugged or TIG; it is the difference between the very expensive stainless steel Columbus XCr tubing and the non-stainless tubing. A set of bare XCr tubes...
10-18-21, 05:31 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 6,734
Posted By Johnk3

Better option than a stock bare frame from Japan

With the additional cost of frame painting you are very close to what it would cost to get a fully custom made lugged frame steel bike handmade in Italy by one of the best frame makers in the world...
09-13-21, 02:00 PM
Replies: 255
Views: 11,518
Posted By Johnk3

Good choice with Campy

I just built my "best wish for" bike a year and a half ago. I had the frame custom built to my size and paint scheme out of Columbus XCr stainless steel tubing TIG welded by Cicli Barco in Italy....
Forum: Road Cycling
06-16-21, 07:10 AM
Replies: 106
Views: 15,713
Posted By Johnk3

Cicli Barco XCr custom stainless steel

The fork and stays are raw brushed stainless steel. I had the option or brushed or polished. It's a look you can't get with chrome.
Forum: Road Cycling
06-14-21, 02:46 PM
Replies: 106
Views: 15,713
Posted By Johnk3

Be sure to check out their Facebook page and...

Be sure to check out their Facebook page and Instagram pages for lots of photos. Barco has been in business since 1947.
Also: https://www.cyclist.co.uk/reviews/6641/cicli-barco-xcr-review which...
Forum: Road Cycling
06-14-21, 01:56 PM
Replies: 106
Views: 15,713
Posted By Johnk3

Cicli Barco XCr custom stainless steel

Cicli Barco is a small family business and one of the best steel bike builders in Europe. They have won numerous awards, including Best of Italy at Bespoke, the English handmade bike show. They also...
05-06-21, 01:24 PM
Replies: 83
Views: 12,896
Posted By Johnk3

TIG welded stainless steel. Columbus XCr I...

TIG welded stainless steel. Columbus XCr I believe. That is very high end and expensive tubing.
Forum: Road Cycling
04-12-21, 01:48 PM
Replies: 209
Views: 17,488
Posted By Johnk3

Dump the cheap CF and Aluminum bikes

At that price level, you are far better off buying a used, high-quality, steel racing/road bike. It will never break and overall it will be a far better ride than your two options. At $400 for a new...
Forum: Touring
03-15-21, 06:29 PM
Replies: 140
Views: 17,041
Posted By Johnk3

Check out a custom Cicli Barco. They make...

Check out a custom Cicli Barco. They make anything you want, and make it beautifully and for reasonable prices and time frame. The shipping from Italy is not a big deal, I think about $170.
Gianluca...
03-15-21, 06:14 PM
Replies: 81
Views: 7,798
Posted By Johnk3

What about direct mount rim brakes?

I hate the look of disc brakes but acknowledge their worth in some circumstances. However you can get the best of both worlds with direct mount brakes. Besides working far better than regular rim...
02-08-21, 07:11 PM
Replies: 83
Views: 12,896
Posted By Johnk3

When I was about to turn 70, I decided to get a...

When I was about to turn 70, I decided to get a custom Cinelli Supercorsa. That process ended up being a nightmare. As a result, I ordered a custom Cicli Barco using Columbus XCr stainless steel...
02-08-21, 07:03 PM
Replies: 273
Views: 27,566
Posted By Johnk3

Cicli Barco XCr custom stainless steel

My bike has the same specs as the one in the review except for having HED alloy wheels. Mine weighs 18.67 lbs in a size 58.5 frame and the total cost for mine was about $8500. That is a lot less than...
01-11-21, 02:52 PM
Replies: 3,574
Views: 983,581
Posted By Johnk3

My I suggest for your wheelset the H Plus Son...

My I suggest for your wheelset the H Plus Son TB14, it has an old school profile and comes in both black and polished aluminum. The White Industries T11 hubs are available in polished as well as all...
10-01-20, 07:39 PM
Replies: 273
Views: 27,566
Posted By Johnk3

It was 3,320 euros which was $3,600 last year,...

It was 3,320 euros which was $3,600 last year, today almost $3,900. It did not include the actual brakes, only the extra cost of adding the dual brake mounts. I spent another $3,700 on the group...
10-01-20, 07:26 PM
Replies: 273
Views: 27,566
Posted By Johnk3

[QUOTE=Mulberry20;21723546][QUOTE=Johnk3;21723540]...

[QUOTE=Mulberry20;21723546][QUOTE=Johnk3;21723540]My frame was $3,600 including shipping, the Viva fork with CF steering tube, Chris King headset, direct mount brakes, name plaque, Italian shield,...
10-01-20, 06:48 PM
Replies: 273
Views: 27,566
Posted By Johnk3

My frame was $3,600 including shipping, the Viva...

My frame was $3,600 including shipping, the Viva fork with CF steering tube, Chris King headset, direct mount brakes, name plaque, Italian shield, nickel head badge and extra paint colors. I'm not...
10-01-20, 06:41 PM
Replies: 273
Views: 27,566
Posted By Johnk3

Barco makes steel frames of anything you want....

Barco makes steel frames of anything you want. They like to use stainless steel for lugs to avoid weight and problems with chrome. They will also use CF forks. BUT, if you are getting a custom made...
10-01-20, 05:44 PM
Replies: 273
Views: 27,566
Posted By Johnk3

The bike is made of TIG welded Columbus XCr...

The bike is made of TIG welded Columbus XCr stainless steel. It is one of Columbus's newest steels, only available for about 12 years and as steel tube sets go, it is pretty expensive, I believe the...
10-01-20, 10:38 AM
Replies: 273
Views: 27,566
Posted By Johnk3

Look at their Facebook page and Instagram pages...

Look at their Facebook page and Instagram pages for photos of all the XCr frames they have made. There are lots of options to consider. Barco can put together the whole bike for you as well. They...
10-01-20, 10:24 AM
Replies: 273
Views: 27,566
Posted By Johnk3

I went with the Viva fork with the carbon...

I went with the Viva fork with the carbon steering tube. It saves a lot of weight over the steel tube version. I also went with direct mount brakes which are a big improvement over regular rim...
10-01-20, 10:15 AM
Replies: 273
Views: 27,566
Posted By Johnk3

Many of the well known custom steel frame makers...

Many of the well known custom steel frame makers in the US have long wait times, some even in years and a few are not even taking new orders. That is one of the reasons I chose Cicli Barco. Their...
09-28-20, 05:29 PM
Replies: 273
Views: 27,566
Posted By Johnk3

I first began riding a real bike in the early...

I first began riding a real bike in the early 1980's with a Italian Simoncini made from Columbus SL which I still have. I took 20 years off to get lazy and overweight but went back to riding about 10...
08-31-20, 11:50 AM
Replies: 63
Views: 6,971
Posted By Johnk3

Signature

When I had my stainless steel Columbus XCr custom bike made by Cicli Barco, one option was a name plate. I took them up on it. It is in stainless steel, but you can get whatever you want.
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08-11-20, 11:33 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 13,784
Posted By Johnk3

I chose the XCr because of the stainless steel. ...

I chose the XCr because of the stainless steel. I didn't want any rust issues. I think Barco uses polished stainless steel lugs even on non stainless frames because of weight and potential rust...
08-11-20, 10:18 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 13,784
Posted By Johnk3

yes, I saw that. It convinced me to get the...

yes, I saw that. It convinced me to get the Barco. Mine is the same except for the wheels, saddle and electronic shifting. It is a larger size, that is why mine weighs 14 oz more.
08-11-20, 10:08 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 13,784
Posted By Johnk3

be careful. "Made in Italy " legally means only...

be careful. "Made in Italy " legally means only that a certain percentage of the finished value was done in Italy. The basic frame may have been made elsewhere. With my Cicli Barco, I was sent...
08-11-20, 10:04 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 13,784
Posted By Johnk3

be careful. "Made in Italy " legally means only...

be careful. "Made in Italy " legally means only that a certain percentage of the finished value was done in Italy. The basic frame may have been made elsewhere. With my Cicli Barco, I was sent...
08-11-20, 09:48 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 13,784
Posted By Johnk3

my young wife, a triathlete, told me I needed...

my young wife, a triathlete, told me I needed another bike, specifically the Barco XCr. I love her.
08-11-20, 09:38 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 13,784
Posted By Johnk3

I already have two classic lugged steel framed...

I already have two classic lugged steel framed bikes with classic stuff, a Simoncini and a Cinelli. I wanted my Barco to be the most modern and lightest.
08-11-20, 08:04 AM
Replies: 132
Views: 13,784
Posted By Johnk3

You missed the point. Of course I have lots of...

You missed the point. Of course I have lots of carbon fiber on my bike, saddle frame, pedals,, Campy SR, and WR Compositi seat post, stem, handlebars and steering tube. My frame and fork are...
08-09-20, 10:32 PM
Replies: 132
Views: 13,784
Posted By Johnk3

Comparing a mass produced Asian CF bike with mid...

Comparing a mass produced Asian CF bike with mid and low end components to a fully custom, handmade Columbus XCr stainless steel frame with Campy Super Record group and WR Compositi components is...
08-09-20, 10:31 PM
Replies: 132
Views: 13,784
Posted By Johnk3

Comparing a mass produced Asian CF bike with mid...

Comparing a mass produced Asian CF bike with mid and low end components to a fully custom, handmade Columbus XCr stainless steel frame with Campy Super Record group and WR Compositi components is...
08-08-20, 10:46 PM
Replies: 132
Views: 13,784
Posted By Johnk3

Nope, it was $3,600 and a real bargain at that....

Nope, it was $3,600 and a real bargain at that. The Cinelli XCr frame costs $1,200 more for a much less finished frame. The Columbus XCr frame set tubes alone cost about $900.
07-27-20, 05:53 PM
Replies: 132
Views: 13,784
Posted By Johnk3

Cicli Barco XCr custom stainless steel

That 18 lb bike looks like about a 53 cm frame at most.

Here is a real light stainless steel bike at 18.875 lbs including pedals for a 58.5 cm frame using Columbus XCr tubes, and it even has a...
07-13-20, 01:47 PM
Replies: 73
Views: 8,985
Posted By Johnk3

Cicli Barco XCr custom stainless steel

Here is my 2020 custom Cicli Barco XCr. TIG welded stainless Columbus XCr tubes, stainless steel Barco Viva fork with carbon steering tube, Chris King headset, Campy Super Record 12 sp. group, Campy...
06-29-20, 12:56 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 3,103
Posted By Johnk3

Likely rusted out from the inside. You need a new...

Likely rusted out from the inside. You need a new bike.
06-26-20, 10:33 AM
Replies: 116
Views: 31,887
Posted By Johnk3

That is one very expensive bike. Their custom...

That is one very expensive bike. Their custom version (+ $200) with Campy Super Record group costs $12,700 and weighs 14 lbs for about a 53 size. My custom stainless steel Cicli Barco XCr has a...
06-26-20, 09:10 AM
Replies: 116
Views: 31,887
Posted By Johnk3

You are so right. Until You lose that extra 20...

You are so right. Until You lose that extra 20 lbs., spending a lot of money on fragile, light weight stuff is not only a waste of money but could be dangerous. Many light weight items come with a...
06-26-20, 08:13 AM
Replies: 116
Views: 31,887
Posted By Johnk3

Keep in mind that there is a significant weight...

Keep in mind that there is a significant weight difference depending on size. Just saying that your specific bike weighs a certain amount is meaningless without a size.
06-26-20, 08:07 AM
Replies: 82
Views: 26,780
Posted By Johnk3

Gruppo is the parent company of both Columbus and...

Gruppo is the parent company of both Columbus and Cinelli. They are, in effect, one and the same. Cinelli steel bikes are almost certainly made by someone else and are certainly not up to their...
06-24-20, 10:09 PM
Replies: 82
Views: 26,780
Posted By Johnk3

Yes, my Barco XCr. a lot nicer than Cinelli and...

Yes, my Barco XCr. a lot nicer than Cinelli and far cheaper.

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06-23-20, 07:55 AM
Replies: 116
Views: 31,887
Posted By Johnk3

The Campagnolo Super Record 12 speed group is...

The Campagnolo Super Record 12 speed group is mechanical, smooth as silk and you never have to worry about charging your battery. The 11-32 cassette helps these old legs on the hills. I don't ride my...
06-22-20, 05:10 PM
Replies: 116
Views: 31,887
Posted By Johnk3

Your bike is a lot smaller than mine is. The...

Your bike is a lot smaller than mine is. The Barco XCr in the review is a little larger than yours and weighs 17.6. A few inches of steel tubing here and there add up. Measure your seat tube from the...
06-22-20, 03:53 PM
Replies: 116
Views: 31,887
Posted By Johnk3

Very nice Supercorsa, but it is a very small...

Very nice Supercorsa, but it is a very small sized frame so the weight is misleading. I have a new Supercorsa that weighs in at just under 21 lbs with pedals for a 58.5 cm frame. But I have a...
06-22-20, 03:49 PM
Replies: 116
Views: 31,887
Posted By Johnk3

Cicli Barco XCr custom stainless steel 58.5 cm

This is my new custom Cicli Barco frame made with Columbus XCr which is a very thin, very light, and very expensive, stainless steel, triple butted tubing. This bike weighs 18.875 lbs. with pedals....
05-07-20, 01:17 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 18,577
Posted By Johnk3

However the same issue has been successfully...

However the same issue has been successfully dealt with with all carbon fiber bikes, they all have metal dropouts and brake bosses. I figure that if a steel dropout works on a carbon fork, then a...
05-07-20, 10:56 AM
Replies: 54
Views: 18,577
Posted By Johnk3

I did not choose that saddle for its look. One of...

I did not choose that saddle for its look. One of our local bike shops has a try frame with a clamp to quickly change saddles. They used to have a display of over 100 different saddles, and for a fee...
05-05-20, 11:23 PM
Replies: 54
Views: 18,577
Posted By Johnk3

Carbon fork on a steel frame???

A lot of steel frame builders use only carbon forks. Many do not even offer a steel fork option. I know they are lighter, but doesn't that pervert the very purpose of a steel frame? They tout the...
04-24-20, 12:53 PM
Replies: 168
Views: 23,909
Posted By Johnk3

Aluminum is light but not nearly as strong as...

Aluminum is light but not nearly as strong as steel, so the aluminum bike tubes have to be quite large and thick to handle the weight and stress. They are also able to be molded into non-round...
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