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Forum: Electric Bikes
08-06-23, 07:31 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 859
Posted By Papa Ado

Some chain manufacturers will add extra...

Some chain manufacturers will add extra durability (giving longer chain life) to eBike-specific chains through harder pins and rollers. For example, KMC has "Sport" and "Turbo" e-series chains with...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
04-09-23, 08:31 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 772
Posted By Papa Ado

Matching chain to chainring teeth = simply make...

Matching chain to chainring teeth = simply make sure that your outer plates are on the wide tooth and inner plates on the narrow tooth. Some people still get this wrong.

110 BCD chainrings = any...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
09-18-22, 08:45 PM
Replies: 99
Views: 18,522
Posted By Papa Ado

80% is too high, but you may be surprised at the...

80% is too high, but you may be surprised at the amount of fake chains online. Check out the multiple Shopee and Lazada websites for a deep dive. If the seller claims that the chain "came from the...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
09-05-22, 08:16 PM
Replies: 99
Views: 18,522
Posted By Papa Ado

Thank you for the reference. We are also looking...

Thank you for the reference. We are also looking into similar options for packaging.
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
09-04-22, 09:08 PM
Replies: 99
Views: 18,522
Posted By Papa Ado

Thank you for your due diligence in spotting and...

Thank you for your due diligence in spotting and reporting fake chains. It has become more of a problem in the last few years and the counterfeit producers are getting better at fixing their mistakes...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
12-12-21, 06:53 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 27,226
Posted By Papa Ado

KMC here. These both look legit. There are still...

KMC here. These both look legit. There are still some older packaging and models (X10.93) floating around. But please be cautious of older packaging (including the long plastic boxes) as these are...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
11-21-21, 07:37 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 944
Posted By Papa Ado

Thanks for the photos. They look legit (plate...

Thanks for the photos. They look legit (plate stamping and rivets), but hard to tell without a closer shot of the plate stamping details. Feel free to PM me.
Forum: General Cycling Discussion
11-15-21, 08:34 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 2,483
Posted By Papa Ado

KMC here. There are more and more counterfeit...

KMC here. There are more and more counterfeit chains in the market for all brands. We have started to monitor many major online marketplaces with Sentryc to find and put a stop to those selling...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
11-15-21, 08:21 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 944
Posted By Papa Ado

Sorry I'm late to the forum party. I received an...

Sorry I'm late to the forum party. I received an email from the OP last week and replied but haven't hear back. And yes, we've seen more counterfeit KMC chains recently and we are utilizing Sentryc...
Forum: Road Cycling
06-04-21, 01:55 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 4,312
Posted By Papa Ado

Thanks for your opinion! I hope you're not...

Thanks for your opinion! I hope you're not calling ALL of KMC's customers cheapskates. JK ;) Some people prefer other brands (including our Shimano chains) and I've found that many of those people...
Forum: Road Cycling
06-02-21, 08:32 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 4,312
Posted By Papa Ado

We have internal test reports showing results,...

We have internal test reports showing results, but this could be viewed as biased. So in real life, I primarily deal with all of the bike brands for the OME side of things. Unfortunately we've been...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
05-31-21, 09:28 PM
Replies: 99
Views: 18,522
Posted By Papa Ado

I saw the pictures from Ricky, and agree with his...

I saw the pictures from Ricky, and agree with his conclusion. I've checked the seller's page and he sells a lot of counterfeit KMC products. We will take action and have asked our distributor in...
Forum: Road Cycling
05-31-21, 12:22 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 4,312
Posted By Papa Ado

KMC here. Our chains have been proven to be as...

KMC here. Our chains have been proven to be as good as or better than Sram chains so it's likely another culprit. Good advice above to check the cassette wear or other drivetrain adjustments.
Forum: General Cycling Discussion
05-31-21, 12:19 AM
Replies: 57
Views: 12,075
Posted By Papa Ado

KMC here. I highly suggest going with the KMC X8...

KMC here. I highly suggest going with the KMC X8 which works flawlessly on Shimano HG cassettes :)
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
05-30-21, 09:59 PM
Replies: 99
Views: 18,522
Posted By Papa Ado

Hi. KMC here. Sounds like some oddities on the...

Hi. KMC here. Sounds like some oddities on the package labels which usually indicates it's fake. Are you able to post pics of send me a DM yet?

In regards to counterfeit chains, we have started a...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
03-15-21, 07:37 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 772
Posted By Papa Ado

KMC here. Your X10 KMC chain will be fine on the...

KMC here. Your X10 KMC chain will be fine on the new (to you) Sram 11s chainring. Remember to match up the narrow/wide tooth design to the appropriate chain plates, and you'll be all set.
Forum: Track Cycling: Velodrome Racing and Training Area
01-11-21, 03:18 AM
Replies: 183
Views: 102,308
Posted By Papa Ado

KMC here. Our City Hunter chain was redesigned...

KMC here. Our City Hunter chain was redesigned with a bushing to make it more durable. Thus it's a perfect beefy chain for shared-bikes, but also a bomb-proof chain for any other single speeds:...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
01-05-21, 12:09 AM
Replies: 99
Views: 18,522
Posted By Papa Ado

X Series (1,8-12s) is in the darker blue package...

X Series (1,8-12s) is in the darker blue package whereas Z series (1-9s) is in a lighter blue box shown in bottom left here:
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Q7MAAOSw7F9cOJge/s-l300.jpg
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
01-04-21, 03:21 AM
Replies: 99
Views: 18,522
Posted By Papa Ado

KMC here. Definitely not a normal break and sorry...

KMC here. Definitely not a normal break and sorry this happened. Glad to hear you got it sorted and were able to continue your ride. I can't tell if it's authentic or not from your photo. You could...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
01-04-21, 03:18 AM
Replies: 99
Views: 18,522
Posted By Papa Ado

KMC here. Thanks for the tag. Unfortunately there...

KMC here. Thanks for the tag. Unfortunately there are Chinese-made counterfeit KMC chains out there, but we are doing all we can to track them down and put an end to it at the source. You could PM me...
Forum: Electric Bikes
12-27-20, 08:21 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 5,300
Posted By Papa Ado

Shifting will put more lateral stress on your...

Shifting will put more lateral stress on your chain so pin power is important here. Simply be careful when shifting under (mid motor) load since tensile stress is highest between cassette and...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
11-25-20, 07:44 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,759
Posted By Papa Ado

Nope. Chain spacing is pretty much created equal...

Nope. Chain spacing is pretty much created equal to accommodate narrow/wide teeth. It's the plate design that matters with KMC giving more room for chain maneuverability on harsh 1x chainlines while...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
11-25-20, 07:41 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,759
Posted By Papa Ado

I ride DLC with blue inner links and pins and use...

I ride DLC with blue inner links and pins and use squirt wax. The color always looks fantastic and there is no color wear.

As for weight, yes it's not much difference but it's relative; you would...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
11-22-20, 07:52 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,759
Posted By Papa Ado

I like this guy. KMC here. X11EL and X11SL chains...

I like this guy. KMC here. X11EL and X11SL chains are a great choice for your application. And if you've got some money burning a hole in your pocket, upgrade to the premium DLC11 which reduces...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
11-22-20, 07:45 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 709
Posted By Papa Ado

KMC here. Confirmed. The plates with a weird...

KMC here. Confirmed. The plates with a weird alphanumeric sequence are production codes.

To note, we have different chains for all speeds, but 6, 7 and 8 speed are the same width (7.3mm...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
11-18-20, 01:19 AM
Replies: 44
Views: 2,884
Posted By Papa Ado

0.8% wear overall so your calculation is correct....

0.8% wear overall so your calculation is correct. If you have the time, it may be more accurate to measure pin length for the same distance at 139.7mm (12.7mm*11) and base wear off of this benchmark...
Forum: Electric Bikes
11-17-20, 09:22 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 5,300
Posted By Papa Ado

The primary difference of our e-bike chains vs...

The primary difference of our e-bike chains vs regular chains is the pin riveting technology used. Extended durability is an added bonus from us as e-bike riders usually ride farther.

Mid motors...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
11-17-20, 09:11 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 2,884
Posted By Papa Ado

The easiest and most convenient way to check...

The easiest and most convenient way to check chain elongation is at the rollers which also includes other chain wear at the inner link sleeves and pins. It's not perfect but most users won't measure...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
11-17-20, 09:07 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 2,884
Posted By Papa Ado

You mentioned you used the Z51 chain, correct? We...

You mentioned you used the Z51 chain, correct? We suggest the X8 for better durability.
Forum: Electric Bikes
11-16-20, 09:46 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 5,300
Posted By Papa Ado

KMC here. As mentioned above, we offer...

KMC here. As mentioned above, we offer ebike-specific chains that have our premium heat treatment process to harden the chain components to extend durability.

Multispeed here:...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
11-16-20, 09:42 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 2,884
Posted By Papa Ado

KMC here. Sorry to revive this a week later....

KMC here. Sorry to revive this a week later. Thanks for the love above. A lot of info and opinions to digest in this thread, but I wanted to make a few small points.

- We have different levels,...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
03-23-20, 11:49 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 729
Posted By Papa Ado

CS-M9100 is compatible with CN-M7100. The only...

CS-M9100 is compatible with CN-M7100. The only differences between CN-M7100, CN-M8100, CN-M9100 are coatings.
Forum: Classic & Vintage
02-04-20, 02:04 AM
Replies: 67
Views: 10,028
Posted By Papa Ado

Black is the new black is the new black. We at...

Black is the new black is the new black. We at KMC are told this every year and thus, continue to make more durable black chains. Our current color stable includes about 10 different blacks...yes,...
Forum: Classic & Vintage
02-04-20, 01:54 AM
Replies: 75
Views: 9,983
Posted By Papa Ado

Never has there been enough gold chains in this...

Never has there been enough gold chains in this world. VIVA LA ORO!!! And why not go way back to when we made a real gold plated 9 speed chain - the X21!
...
Forum: Classic & Vintage
02-04-20, 01:46 AM
Replies: 75
Views: 9,983
Posted By Papa Ado

KMC here. Currently our X8 Gold chain is the one...

KMC here. Currently our X8 Gold chain is the one for you. But you may be able to find some old stock of gold Z6 (Z33) or Z7 (Z50) in your LBS.
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
12-16-19, 09:30 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 27,226
Posted By Papa Ado

Please don't blame the chain just yet ;) Sounds...

Please don't blame the chain just yet ;) Sounds like there are a myriad of uncontrolled variables involved.
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
12-15-19, 08:09 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 27,226
Posted By Papa Ado

Are you in the states? Could you take a photo of...

Are you in the states? Could you take a photo of the back of the box and send to info@kmcchain.us ?



Apologies for this. Please feel free to contact us if you have any questions/concerns...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
12-12-19, 12:57 AM
Replies: 70
Views: 27,226
Posted By Papa Ado

Our US office sells directly to Amazon for...

Our US office sells directly to Amazon for resale. You can contact them at info@kmcchain.us to determine whichis an authorized account/seller there. Again, we are doing our best to crack down on...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
12-12-19, 12:55 AM
Replies: 70
Views: 27,226
Posted By Papa Ado

Everything is copied, even our most economical...

Everything is copied, even our most economical entry level chains. China is a very different animal.
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
12-11-19, 08:37 AM
Replies: 70
Views: 27,226
Posted By Papa Ado

Many sellers selling fake chains will use this...

Many sellers selling fake chains will use this and other platforms. If you have any questions concerning product authenticity, please contact our offices in the US (kmcchain.us), Europe (kmcchain.eu)...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
10-23-19, 02:43 AM
Replies: 70
Views: 27,226
Posted By Papa Ado

Thanks for your input on packaging. It coincided...

Thanks for your input on packaging. It coincided with a revamp of our model lineup including new model names (i.e. Z72 to Z8 for 8 speed) and atrophy of some less popular models. The problem with our...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
10-23-19, 02:36 AM
Replies: 70
Views: 27,226
Posted By Papa Ado

Unofficial answer: X8 is meant to go with CL573R...

Unofficial answer: X8 is meant to go with CL573R (wider version) but will also fit CL571R a little more snugly.

Official answer: X8 paired with CL573R only
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
10-22-19, 09:33 AM
Replies: 70
Views: 27,226
Posted By Papa Ado

We produce chains in Taiwan, Vietnam, and several...

We produce chains in Taiwan, Vietnam, and several locations in China. Amazon can be sketchy, but online dealers vary by country so please use caution.
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
10-21-19, 09:34 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 27,226
Posted By Papa Ado

KMC here to answer a few questions from the above...

KMC here to answer a few questions from the above conversation:
- Not sure about the chain that the OP bought as there are many accounts selling fake chains of all speeds (regardless of price). We...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
01-29-19, 09:40 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 3,399
Posted By Papa Ado

The twisted broken links you see after your chain...

The twisted broken links you see after your chain pops are a result of failed shifting under load - the plates twist and the pin releases from the plates. For example, you shift and the derailleur...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
01-29-19, 09:35 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 3,399
Posted By Papa Ado

KMC's connecting links from single to 11 speed...

KMC's connecting links from single to 11 speed are now all available in re-usable versions. Some are also available in non-reusable versions as some riders still prefer the locking mechanism in the...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
01-29-19, 09:30 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 3,399
Posted By Papa Ado

I highly suggest KMC's X11 chains for your 1x11...

I highly suggest KMC's X11 chains for your 1x11 XT drivetrain. Yes, it may be obvious that KMC is suggesting KMC, but in fact we've specifically designed our chain to be 1x compatible with added...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
01-29-19, 09:23 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 3,399
Posted By Papa Ado

KMC here: 1) KMC Chains? Absolutely! ;) 2)...

KMC here:
1) KMC Chains? Absolutely! ;)
2) The primary differences with our specific ebike chains and standard chains are stronger riveting to hold the chain together under mid-motor torsional...
Forum: Bicycle Mechanics
01-29-19, 09:21 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 3,399
Posted By Papa Ado

KMC here. Sorry I'm late to the party. 1) SL...

KMC here. Sorry I'm late to the party.
1) SL chain parts (specifically rollers and pins) are treated with higher durability tech and therefore last longer than our base models
2) X10 and X11 are...
Forum: Road Cycling
09-26-14, 04:27 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 27,404
Posted By Papa Ado

As the connecting links, or any place where the...

As the connecting links, or any place where the chain was connected/reconnected by pin, is the weakest part of the chain, probably not too soon. Pin Power is king!...for now.



KMC doesn't...
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