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Posted By carleton

I recall Gleatzer riding one of his sub-1min...

I recall Gleatzer riding one of his sub-1min kilos almost 100% with his head down. He swerved like a drunk man in the turns, but it was obvious that keeping the head down as soon as possible through...
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Posted By carleton

That position looks fast as hell...especially if...

That position looks fast as hell...especially if you train yourself to (safely) drop your head* on the straights for extra significant aero gains.

*This is an advanced technique that I'd only...
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Posted By carleton

The standing start is key to the 500m. You cannot...

The standing start is key to the 500m. You cannot nail the standing start if your bars are too close. You’ll be constricted, like changing clothes in an airplane bathroom.

Both the Keirin and...
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Posted By carleton

I think roadie fits are basically, “Near 100% of...

I think roadie fits are basically, “Near 100% of weight on the butt. Little to no weight on the hands.” This definitely allows for very long rides/races.

Track racing is closer to time trialing...
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Posted By carleton

:D Yeah. I agree. I think his fit is now on...

:D

Yeah. I agree. I think his fit is now on the shorter side of OK. Roadies and enduros like that compact setup. Maybe it’s comfortable.

Maybe turn the stem down to get another...
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Posted By carleton

That’s awesome! It looks much better to the...

That’s awesome!

It looks much better to the eye and I’m sure that the numbers say so as well.

I’m glad to have helped!
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Posted By carleton

So far, so good!

So far, so good!
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Posted By carleton

Interesting! Here is Awang in 2012 (33cm...

Interesting!

Here is Awang in 2012 (33cm Alpinas and Scattos were out by then), but he's still rocking the 34cm Nittos. Maybe there are pics of him in 2011 or 2010 out there.
...
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Posted By carleton

After that, they wanted carbon. And Alpina...

After that, they wanted carbon.

And Alpina made some for them.

Here are the first 33cm Alpina sprint bars (unbranded):

https://i.imgur.com/qyGQt1k.jpg...
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Posted By carleton

BTW, Hoy was the first top sprinter that I ever...

BTW, Hoy was the first top sprinter that I ever saw using super narrow bars.

I don't think that this is a coincidence:
...
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Posted By carleton

Yup. I see sprinters now going for "long and...

Yup.

I see sprinters now going for "long and moderately high" instead of "as low as possible" with their fits. Even fast Masters. That may be testing faster. I think this is also driving the...
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Posted By carleton

Personally, I don't see the Sphinx as being a...

Personally, I don't see the Sphinx as being a faster position than drops. I think the more aggressive Sphinx position with the hands on the "tops" as opposed to where the hoods would be, is more of a...
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Posted By carleton

EXACTLY. Note how a few of the British...

EXACTLY.

Note how a few of the British sprinters setup their bikes. Their arms were really extended forward with elbows kinda straight "piercing the air". However Kenny had a more traditional...
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Posted By carleton

You know...I literally thought about the position...

You know...I literally thought about the position when typing. And I thought, "Well, maybe they are calling it 'Mantis' now..."

Yes, Sphinx.
...
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Posted By carleton

The Mantis...err...Sphinx position is not...

The Mantis...err...Sphinx position is not required to excel in the Madison.

The Madison is already organized chaos. Add the fact that you are new-ish to the Madison, you might be racing with a...
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Posted By carleton

For the test where you use the 130mm stem, please...

For the test where you use the 130mm stem, please use the bars used in the photo above.

When testing, it's easier to just change 1 thing at a time to see how things are working out.
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Posted By carleton

:D Awesome. The only risk is losing 15...

:D

Awesome. The only risk is losing 15 minutes.

The reluctance you feel is the same that people had when the transition from 40cm track bars to 35/37cm track bars happened.

“That’s too...
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Posted By carleton

Stop. Thinking. Install. 130mm Stem. ...

Stop. Thinking.

Install. 130mm Stem.

Take. Photos.




No one is asking you to buy a new frame, cut your steerer, cut your seat mast, or even change your saddle position.
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Posted By carleton

Bruh...you are overthinking this. Trust.

Bruh...you are overthinking this.

Trust.
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Posted By carleton

Don't do 1cm. Start with a 130mm...

Don't do 1cm.

Start with a 130mm stem...TRUST. Don't think. Just do it.

130mm stem. Pick a stem angle and risers to put your hands similarly above the tire line as you have them now. ...
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Posted By carleton

If the website won’t let you save the photo,...

If the website won’t let you save the photo, simply take a screenshot of it.
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Posted By carleton

Yeah, the internet is full of advice when it...

Yeah, the internet is full of advice when it comes to bike fitting. Most comes from the road and TT world where the demands are similar but significantly different.

The advice I give (and followed...
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Posted By carleton

That’s the point. Why spend an hour with a...

That’s the point.

Why spend an hour with a fitter doing the basics that will get one “90% there” when that could be done at home. Use that hour to dial in that last 10%, like shoe wedges, pedal...
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Posted By carleton

OK. I guess we should just burn this thread then....

OK. I guess we should just burn this thread then. No sense in us learning about other stuff. What good will that do? :foo:
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Posted By carleton

Glad to help! It’s an expensive purchase....

Glad to help!

It’s an expensive purchase. Maybe pay a fitter to put the TK1’s specs into a fit bike so you can sit on that geometry.

Between 57cm and 60cm, I would imagine that 60 would be a...
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Posted By carleton

I'm 6'1" with a long torso. Also, narrow...

I'm 6'1" with a long torso.

Also, narrow bars, 33-35cm wide, require longer reach because when you bring the arms together (from say 44cm road bars), the back goes up. To get the back to go down...
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Posted By carleton

Thanks brawlo and taras. I've loved the...

Thanks brawlo and taras.

I've loved the Arione saddle for track because it has a flat top and allows one to slide back and forth as needed....
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Posted By carleton

Looks good. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing...

Looks good.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing by asking, what were your fitter's thoughts for moving you back 2cm?

Can you comfortably carry the RPMs you want with the new position?

The reason...
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Posted By carleton

Further back engages more glutes as it closes the...

Further back engages more glutes as it closes the hips. I think it's a "big gear" thing as it's good for mashing. More forward enables higher cadences and opens hips.

A long, flat saddle like...
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Posted By carleton

Stretching is very important. The key is to...

Stretching is very important.

The key is to be able to stretch lower than your race position such that when you are in your race position, there is no tension on your muscles. If there is tension...
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Posted By carleton

I'm about as flexible as a Popsicle stick. A...

I'm about as flexible as a Popsicle stick.

A few things that have helped over the years:

- Spend some significant part of your warmup in the drops (at home or on the track). This is "active...
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Posted By carleton

Wow. All of this, turteling and supinating is...

Wow. All of this, turteling and supinating is really insightful.
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Posted By carleton

The position I settled on was more like this: ...

The position I settled on was more like this:

https://i.imgur.com/9LuGatl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8BHtmxb.jpg

Not that I'm comparing myself to Hammer. Her opening Kilo on a bad day is like 10s...
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Posted By carleton

I think the more nuanced hand positions would...

I think the more nuanced hand positions would work on nice tracks, but at some tracks you have to fight for stability.

I've always liked J/Ski bend because it was more stable for me for the...
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Posted By carleton

Ah! The Hoods. That makes sense. Thanks!

Ah! The Hoods. That makes sense. Thanks!
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Posted By carleton

Yeah, why is that? I've never been much of a road...

Yeah, why is that? I've never been much of a road rider. And when I did ride on the road, my road bike was setup to mimic my track fit but with the bars about 2" higher for comfort.

Do the...
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Posted By carleton

Hi, pi03k. Welcome to the forum. The fit...

Hi, pi03k. Welcome to the forum.

The fit looks good.

https://i.imgur.com/kyuDPQ2.png

I want to second what queerpunk says about you might be reaching a tad with your legs. Maybe lowering...
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Posted By carleton

Hi, and welcome to the forum and to the sport! ...

Hi, and welcome to the forum and to the sport!

It's not gonna be comfortable at the beginning...especially if you are new to riding in general. It's hard to say if you are just sore from a long...
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Posted By carleton

How long is a piece of string? :D This is...

How long is a piece of string? :D

This is why I suggested comparing yourself to photos of faster/elite racers to mimic their positions as a starting point.

As Taras says, it's a process. ...
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Posted By carleton

Yeah, I agree. I'd like to learn more about the...

Yeah, I agree. I'd like to learn more about the subject for sure.

I'm not sure how I feel about the super high-tech ($$$$) bike fitting machines that are out there now. I don't know if they are...
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Posted By carleton

Nice! I'm a mac user, so I can't give it a try. ...

Nice! I'm a mac user, so I can't give it a try.

There is a iPhone/iPad app called Coach's Eye that does similar.

https://www.coachseye.com/

It's kinda pricey now. I was an early user of it...
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Posted By carleton

Here's what I've done in the past: Get a...

Here's what I've done in the past:

Get a stable, repeatable bike position setup:
Get a bike trainer that locks the rear wheel. This is a basic setup.
Use Rollers for a more advanced setup only...
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Posted By carleton

DIY Bike Fitting for Track

Hi, all.

At some point in time, just like we should all learn to do maintenance on our bikes, we should also learn how to fit ourselves on our bikes. While I do believe that paying for a good...
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