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Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
01-14-19, 06:46 PM
Replies: 209
Views: 22,246
Posted By DieterDrake

Haha. Yes. I stopped looking for sponsors in...

Haha. Yes. I stopped looking for sponsors in 2015. Usually a complete waste of time.

The title of this thread is appropriately named...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
01-14-19, 06:27 PM
Replies: 209
Views: 22,246
Posted By DieterDrake

Agree. The problem is that there just isn't...

Agree.

The problem is that there just isn't enough money in cycling. Everybody is competing for the same resources, all the time, and everyone hates each other for it.
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
01-14-19, 06:15 PM
Replies: 209
Views: 22,246
Posted By DieterDrake

That sounds a lot like a strategy... I've...

That sounds a lot like a strategy...

I've been in on lots of those meetings too and have had dealings with the leadership on both a personal and professional basis. You absolutely do not want to...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
01-13-19, 12:50 PM
Replies: 209
Views: 22,246
Posted By DieterDrake

2016. We're still doing events & tours, though...

2016. We're still doing events & tours, though mostly on the side.

www.tourofcolorado.com
www.cyclechile.com
www.raceoffire.com (my favorite)


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Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
01-13-19, 09:57 AM
Replies: 209
Views: 22,246
Posted By DieterDrake

Yes. This. USADA is ultimately measured by how...

Yes. This. USADA is ultimately measured by how many positives they get per year, not the testing volume. With fewer higher profile pros to go after, they'll continue to ramp up testing of amateurs...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
01-13-19, 09:21 AM
Replies: 209
Views: 22,246
Posted By DieterDrake

Yeah, tough one. No infrastructure at the top or...

Yeah, tough one. No infrastructure at the top or bottom. I think DK will have to remain cycling lore as a standalone climb. Still available at the Tour of the Catskills, though... I also live in CO...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
12-07-18, 10:16 PM
Replies: 209
Views: 22,246
Posted By DieterDrake

Agreed, but my point is that the message has not...

Agreed, but my point is that the message has not been communicated well and Velonews is not exactly in the outlet in which to convey it. That's like yelling in an echo chamber. USA Today or Rolling...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
12-07-18, 08:26 AM
Replies: 209
Views: 22,246
Posted By DieterDrake

Honestly, I didn't really pay any attention to...

Honestly, I didn't really pay any attention to who won what and how or with what in their system at Battenkill (or any race for that matter). I was too busy trying to make it good event. I remember...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
12-04-18, 04:13 PM
Replies: 209
Views: 22,246
Posted By DieterDrake

I toyed with this a few times, but in the end it...

I toyed with this a few times, but in the end it was too much of a pain because that road crosses a county line and that sends it into permitting hell with the NYSDOT... Also, there's really no...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
12-04-18, 04:11 PM
Replies: 209
Views: 22,246
Posted By DieterDrake

Same in New York/New England.

Same in New York/New England.
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
12-04-18, 11:37 AM
Replies: 209
Views: 22,246
Posted By DieterDrake

Perfectly-stated. Thank you.

Perfectly-stated. Thank you.
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
12-02-18, 08:41 PM
Replies: 209
Views: 22,246
Posted By DieterDrake

Answers: 1 Mass start event is worth my...

Answers:

1 Mass start event is worth my time.
Sort of, but they're about 5 year's late
Why would any promoter do that? It's a deterrent for participation.
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
12-02-18, 07:48 PM
Replies: 209
Views: 22,246
Posted By DieterDrake

I should have said "relatively ok". Those...

I should have said "relatively ok". Those regions have seen dramatic declines as well, they just don't suck as much as compared to the rest of the country...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
12-02-18, 07:43 PM
Replies: 209
Views: 22,246
Posted By DieterDrake

No, but I do have 15+ years promoting every size...

No, but I do have 15+ years promoting every size amateur sanctioned race (including the largest in US history) and watching the industry (sponsors, participants, promoters, municipalities, NGBs)...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
12-02-18, 06:59 PM
Replies: 209
Views: 22,246
Posted By DieterDrake

Sorry, it's not even close, not even remotely...

Sorry, it's not even close, not even remotely close. I say this with anecdotal, first hand, and professional experience.

As a former racer myself it pains me to say this, but it's true:...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
11-26-18, 04:06 PM
Replies: 209
Views: 22,246
Posted By DieterDrake

Yes, but the point is that kids today are not...

Yes, but the point is that kids today are not now. That's a real problem for which a solution to has been neglected for a really long time. Solve that problem and we won't have this discussion in...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
11-26-18, 01:54 PM
Replies: 209
Views: 22,246
Posted By DieterDrake

Thanks, Gary. Great discussion and thoughts,...

Thanks, Gary. Great discussion and thoughts, above.We moved on from sanctioned road racing in 2015-16 or so because of the diminishing returns on that style of racing that were/are obvious. There's...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
05-07-17, 07:31 PM
Replies: 3,973
Views: 284,211
Posted By DieterDrake

LOL mike868y. Isn't this the complete...

LOL mike868y.

Isn't this the complete calendar in NE? Ha. Oops, Bear Mtn is in NYS.
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
02-07-17, 12:05 PM
Replies: 119
Views: 11,207
Posted By DieterDrake

Yep, OK. That's probably true. I've never ridden...

Yep, OK. That's probably true. I've never ridden anything other than 23s on those roads, though with pretty industrial tubes.
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
02-07-17, 11:55 AM
Replies: 119
Views: 11,207
Posted By DieterDrake

I don't know. It really depends on the year....

I don't know. It really depends on the year. We've had guys who've done both Roubaix and Battenkill and have commented that Battenkill was harder because of the elevation. The roads are worse some...
Forum: Northeast Rides and Events
01-15-17, 06:29 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 1,640
Posted By DieterDrake

Early Reg closes tonight

https://www.bikereg.com/tourofthebattenkill13
Forum: Northeast Rides and Events
12-26-16, 11:45 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 1,640
Posted By DieterDrake

Thank you.

Thank you.
Forum: Northeast Rides and Events
10-30-16, 11:53 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 1,640
Posted By DieterDrake

2017 Tour of the Battenkill

13th Annual
https://www.bikereg.com/inc/content/images/promoter/575/TOB%20Horiziontal%20transparent.png


SATURDAY, MAY 20, 2017

Greenwich, NY USA

Pro/Am & Open gran fondo
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
09-30-16, 11:42 AM
Replies: 3,973
Views: 284,211
Posted By DieterDrake

NEBRA has done an excellent job sustaining events...

NEBRA has done an excellent job sustaining events and programs in the last 2-3 years. There's no question about that. I just hope the economics don't catch up to them as I think they will.
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
09-30-16, 10:58 AM
Replies: 3,973
Views: 284,211
Posted By DieterDrake

Yeah, great perspective. Thanks for sharing that....

Yeah, great perspective. Thanks for sharing that. It's not a major sport here on the competitive side as compared to Europe for sure, and we struggle with the basic economics of it all.

I changed...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
09-30-16, 08:18 AM
Replies: 3,973
Views: 284,211
Posted By DieterDrake

Also, the inflection point for the biggest race...

Also, the inflection point for the biggest race in North America was reached in 2014 or so. It'll permeate through soon enough in every region, including New England. I'm hoping that you'll be able...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
09-30-16, 06:30 AM
Replies: 3,973
Views: 284,211
Posted By DieterDrake

Maybe, but absent new recruitment into the sport...

Maybe, but absent new recruitment into the sport you'll run out of racers soon.
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
09-23-16, 05:07 PM
Replies: 3,973
Views: 284,211
Posted By DieterDrake

Yeah, you're exactly right. To answer your...

Yeah, you're exactly right.

To answer your question about gran fondos... I think the answer is yes, but it's also yes to cyclocross, gravel grinders, the local 5K running event, tri, etcetera....
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
09-23-16, 12:51 PM
Replies: 3,973
Views: 284,211
Posted By DieterDrake

Sorry if you took that the wrong way, Gary, or...

Sorry if you took that the wrong way, Gary, or perhaps misunderstood me. Traditional open road racing is most certainly and undeniably going away. That's true everywhere and not just the NE. Crits...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
09-23-16, 10:43 AM
Replies: 3,973
Views: 284,211
Posted By DieterDrake

Everyone's doing it these days... People...

Everyone's doing it these days...

People think I'm crazy, but this will define 'road' racing in the near future; individual categorized racing is going away on open roads. Costs and liability are...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
05-25-16, 07:29 AM
Replies: 3,973
Views: 284,211
Posted By DieterDrake

Oh. Thanks. I never heard that term before. ...

Oh. Thanks. I never heard that term before. 'So many designations and classifications these days... Dressing up like pirates could be a new one. I'd go for that.
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
05-25-16, 06:25 AM
Replies: 3,973
Views: 284,211
Posted By DieterDrake

Nope - this was in no way shape or form a USAC...

Nope - this was in no way shape or form a USAC race this year, and it was our best year ever from an admin and logistical standpoint. Though we were down in numbers, it was still the largest road...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
05-24-16, 08:48 AM
Replies: 3,973
Views: 284,211
Posted By DieterDrake

Thank you.

Thank you.
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
03-25-16, 11:30 AM
Replies: 151
Views: 13,617
Posted By DieterDrake

Agreed, but the net # of targeted events (usually...

Agreed, but the net # of targeted events (usually road, well-attended, with some history attached) are on the decline, regionally, and none are really being added. What happens when there are only a...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
03-25-16, 07:18 AM
Replies: 151
Views: 13,617
Posted By DieterDrake

I should also note that the non-cycling - and...

I should also note that the non-cycling - and most of the non-racing cycling public - does not know or recognize the difference between a race and a gran fondo. On average, more than 9 of 10 people...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
03-25-16, 07:03 AM
Replies: 151
Views: 13,617
Posted By DieterDrake

Yeah, I think perspective is important. Mine is...

Yeah, I think perspective is important. Mine is from a slightly more global one where I produce an event that relies on a large attendance to sustain itself. I have to be able to predict the future...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
03-25-16, 06:11 AM
Replies: 151
Views: 13,617
Posted By DieterDrake

Gary, I am not making any judgement about...

Gary,

I am not making any judgement about smaller events. I have organized them. They're just smaller events for whatever reason and, like I have stated in the past, Charlie's events have had a...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
03-25-16, 05:25 AM
Replies: 151
Views: 13,617
Posted By DieterDrake

Yes, we use it as an index for other 'large'...

Yes, we use it as an index for other 'large' events in the region to make decisions about the future of our events. A very high percentage of racers in Battenkill race (or have raced) at least one...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
03-21-16, 11:20 AM
Replies: 151
Views: 13,617
Posted By DieterDrake

BRAC has paid staff, if that's what you mean. ...

BRAC has paid staff, if that's what you mean. Their budget got cut in half recently, though, when a large number of promoters decided to bypass the LA (and the surcharges) to work directly with USAC...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
03-21-16, 11:06 AM
Replies: 151
Views: 13,617
Posted By DieterDrake

With some notable losses, New England has done...

With some notable losses, New England has done well to sustain some key events, and bring back Fitchburg (ahem...yw) which have positively impacted the regional trends. Battenkill has benefited from...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
03-21-16, 08:19 AM
Replies: 151
Views: 13,617
Posted By DieterDrake

Great discussion and comments. There are some...

Great discussion and comments. There are some really smart people here.


Trends:

Battenkill '16 will be at 2007 numbers for the Pro/Am, though the Open gran fondo will likely be up 50% or...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
02-15-16, 07:16 PM
Replies: 3,973
Views: 284,211
Posted By DieterDrake

I hear you. I have stopped riding altogether,...

I hear you. I have stopped riding altogether, because bike race, family, and bike race. I am removing 2 of those things from my life soon, hopefully (and both start with B...) Maybe I'll even...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
01-28-16, 03:12 PM
Replies: 3,973
Views: 284,211
Posted By DieterDrake

Yes, here's a summary: 1. A 'major donor' to...

Yes, here's a summary:

1. A 'major donor' to the USAC Development Fund said he was planning to "sponsor" my event if only it were USAC. Nice try. I want a refund, first, for the $100k+ that I...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
01-27-16, 01:08 PM
Replies: 3,973
Views: 284,211
Posted By DieterDrake

Well, I'm not interested any longer. My...

Well, I'm not interested any longer. My organization can produce any level event, anywhere. We've proven that beyond any doubt with Battenkill, the UCI races, the Tour of Vail, etc. In an environment...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
01-27-16, 12:30 PM
Replies: 3,973
Views: 284,211
Posted By DieterDrake

No question about that. The problems come when...

No question about that. The problems come when the 10% run to their Twitter accounts when their often-unrealistic expectations aren't met at any particular event. That, in turn, affects the 90%.

...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
01-26-16, 07:04 PM
Replies: 3,973
Views: 284,211
Posted By DieterDrake

90% are really great and we're extremely happy to...

90% are really great and we're extremely happy to have them racing. The other 10 should really find something else to do - I don't want to be around them for any reason.
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
01-26-16, 12:12 PM
Replies: 3,973
Views: 284,211
Posted By DieterDrake

Poor behavior by racers toward our staff and my...

Poor behavior by racers toward our staff and my family last year, cost/benefits, etc. Battenkill is our last race.
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
01-26-16, 01:15 AM
Replies: 3,973
Views: 284,211
Posted By DieterDrake

It won't happen. You'll be getting an email this...

It won't happen. You'll be getting an email this week with an offer of a refund or a credit. In any case, I am sorry for the inconvenience. It's not what we planned.
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
01-21-16, 02:21 PM
Replies: 3,973
Views: 284,211
Posted By DieterDrake

Aki - thank you for your dedication and time in...

Aki - thank you for your dedication and time in promoting this series over the last 2+ decades. It's provided valuable racing experience for the region that, in turn, has benefited all other races...
Forum: "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
01-06-16, 05:29 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 2,931
Posted By DieterDrake

Yep, I noticed that also recently. Too bad. I...

Yep, I noticed that also recently. Too bad. I think that hurts USAC far more than non-USAC races going forward.
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