Ok like everything else...I don't follow the crowd. Here my fenders. I got the idea off the web and that was maybe a week or two from now last year. Hence the perfect timing for coming up with the idea. I waited around until Wednesday, November 5th(if I remember the date correctly) and I went out in the evening and went scavenging for election signs that hadn't been taken down yet(NH laws says they have to remove within 24 hours after the election is over or the candidate will be fined...I helped a few people not have to cough up any money). They work great and only the front one rubs occasionally against the tire. Their is a piece of straight chloroplast I have wire tied to the seat tube, you can see the wire ties in the first photo and you can barely notice the piece in the photo as well.