Old 06-15-17, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CrankyOne
There is a reason that The Netherlands and Denmark (and now Sweden, Finland, Germany, Spain, ...) built cement curb protected bikeways and junctions. A car colliding with a bicycle (or pedestrian) is much worse for the bicycle rider. No amount of paint, education, or enforcement ever has nor will result in a safe environment for bicycle riders. Autonomous Vehicles? Maybe but there are other problems.
How many people expect autonomous vehicles to increase the collision rate compared to human-driven vehicles from the current 30,000 motor vehicle deaths per year in the US?

Originally Posted by CrankyOne
The only thing to have ever created a safe environment for bicycle riders is protected bikeways (built to CROW specs).
Because there are no cars there.

What would these graphs look like if there were no cars in any of the billion miles or kilometres measured?
Originally Posted by CrankyOne

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