Originally Posted by Wildwood

Tight is what you want (), but I've never taped tubulars so not one to offer advice (tho I might try on next new pair - Veloflex 28s). My experience is with Vittoria Rally, Conti Sprinters&Competition, Schwalbe (various), Veloflex (various), Challenge Grifo, Specialized 24mm. The tightest to mount during an initial pressure test gets pre-stretched on a rim longer, or with arm pressure (rare).
Interested in knowing the rim.
My hands are no longer so strong, but can still mount them, at home, without tools - something I cannot say about my clincher experience. I haven't had an on-road flat in ages, removing some of my glue jobs requires a special knife-like tool.




I probably need to find the place in this thread where mounting with tape is discussed more fully. With tape, I wonder about making minor adjustments on the tire/rim during the first 5 minutes after mounting.