I just want to say that this is the most interesting BF thread I've read in the last five years. Kudos to all contributors. To @
StirFry - I really like both of your bikes. Sorry that the top tube angle bothers you so much. It's a good looking bike, and I'd bet that it rides just as you had imagined that it would.
Anyway, terrific discussion. I even learned what "edgelording" is, although I'm unsure where I can ever use that nugget. Carry on...