Originally Posted by
spectastic
wow wtf. and the bikes these days aren't even in stock. I think 2022 prices are going to be even more ridiculous. might just get the tcr that's you can actually find
It must have been quite awhile since you've been to a bike shop.
Speed is all on you. Though lighter and aero will help, but at some point there is even a tradeoff between them as aero usually requires more material and therefore a few ounces more weight.
The two in your title have the lower stack heights that will let you get in a more aero position than the other mentioned.