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Old 04-19-23, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fabiofarelli
In my opinion it's hard to say, build by Alan itself or build in consession by (yes) Carbon Valley?
Alan had Carbonios without engravements too (1988/1989) as Carbon Valley never had.



The Carbon Valley build Carbon Green (1992/1993?) and the Donnay Pro 8000 (1991/1992?) don't have internal cable guides but the guides on top of the top tube.



The Carbon Valley build Peugeot PC1000D (1993) has the cable guides under the top tube. The only 'Alan' frames I saw with internal cable guides are from Alan and these, the Carrera.
Early nineties Alan used internal cable guides next to external guides.
Far as I know the Carbon Valley frames were bare, had no transparent lacquer unlike the real Alans. But in this case there's a blue transparent lacquer on the frame, so we cannot check. The decals, by the way, are above the lacquer.
So, hard to say ....
hi there ,
Thanks for all that information and the pictures .
A couple of observations about my Carrera frame worth mentioning , is that it has three tiny white dots(filled? holes ) on the top of the top tube that look suspiciously like the spacing for top tube cable guides .
Also when I received it, one of the plastic cable guides had popped off showing a very rough hole underneath in the CF tube .
I guess it is not that easy to cut a tidy hole in CF ?

All good fun !
Cheers .
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