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Old 07-28-23, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by njkayaker
A left turn on red is explicitly allowed in LA at these kinds of intersections.

https://www.bikeforums.net/22965282-post4.html
As I said, I don't see a turn here, so any law referencing a turn wouldn't apply.

The whole question turns (no pun) whether this is a turn or a light controlling a straight flow into a merge. So, rather than argue the left on red law, let's focus on whether this is a turn or not.

I don't have a problem with disagreement on that point, and am happy to let judges in that jurisdiction decide.

FWIW there is only one possible direction to move at the light, so one may find guidance by wondering why it's there in the first place.
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