Old 10-08-23, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Metieval
Is touring even a thing anymore?
Trek dropped it, cannondale dropped them.
Giant has them in UK ,The US, not so much.


Want a tour bike, your options are limited.

Everything went gravel and bikpacking, but guess what. Racks are making a comeback.

I am tired of manufactures pushing the narrative, instead of listening to the consumers.

Bring it up to them. And they say electric bikes are the thing now..... well duh, thats what they are pushing.

I loved gravel bikes though, they were the utilitarian wider tire drop bar bike that wasn't exactly entry level crap. Although many companies pushed crappy gravel bikes as entry level bikes. Salsa journeyman, trek crossrip, etc... And now the journeyman has been neutered. *eyeroll*.

Now that people are voicing they want flat bar gravel bikes, we get entry level versions.

Welcome to 2023! Things are definitely not better!
How do you know manufacturers are pushing a narrative and not listening to consumers?

Why do you speak of gravel bikes as if they are no longer around? You speak of them in the past like they are gone.

As for the Salsa bike, don't get political, just keep in surpressed, please. salsa changing the name has 0 impact on you.
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