I settled on the Deda gravel stays, I don't know if they are the same ones Andy is using
https://www.bikefabsupply.com/chains...stay-107-sfnkw I really like the straight section at the back. My all city has that and it seems a lot cleaner given the dropouts I'm using, which are longer on the non-drive side. Columbus has a similar bend, but they are huge, and fitting the dropouts to them turned out to be a problem I didn't want to solve. I didn't want to use the brazed on brake mounts for a couple of reasons, and I didn't like the dropout choice that would go with them. Not a fan of Wright style droputs, but maybe I should get over that.