Originally Posted by Garthr

Well I must say this is bit surreal as while I have yet to purchase the Fiandre bib tights , I've worn the Fiandre Pro short version for some 5 plus years. The reason why I've hesitated may be from what you are experiencing, the the length would be too short me and as I found out that equates to an ill fir in the crotch, even if pulled up like waders. Instead I wear some thermal Aerotech Tall bib tights that I can wear over any shorts, which are btw Sportful LTD bibs that use that same TC Pro pad. I've tried lots of brands of shorts and pads and the Sportful LTD Pro shorts with the TC Pro pad is the only one that totally conforms around the groin area and the strong straps keep in firmly up against the crotch, zero movement. They're meant to fit second skin tight. Not for the faint of heart ! The tight fit in the shorts and tight fitting straps is about the number one complaint I see from buyers of these. They're designed that way however, and for me and those that ride them, it's cycling how shorts ought to fit.

I will say that the Fiandre NoRain fleece fabric used in the bib tights and shorts isn't as supple as the regular compression lycra of the LTD. So I spend more time in getting them on so they're positioned just right an don't hesitate to make adjustments on the fly if needed, at least where there's no one around. I have 4 different generations of the Fiandre shorts and each one is made slightly different, most notably my first pair that used a white mesh for the upper. Those never fit real well in the crotch. All subsequent versions have the same black upper as the LTD's and fit more like them.

I much prefer the Fiandre shorts with Fiandre leg warmers, when not under the Aerotech thermal bib. In fall I bought a Santini Aldo winter bib tight instead of the Fiandre tight and it was about 3 inches to short, and yes, it's saggy and ill fitting in the crotch. I could pull them up and all like waders and because my thermal socks were tall I tried riding them but the ill fitting crotch was just unbearable. The bib shorts under bib tights works wonderfully and that's what I'll stick to.

I can't speak to how yours rubbed you the wrong way of course, but I'm also susceptible to discomforts down there and now I apply some Noxzema to the pad prior to wearing to moisten it before riding. That and some Cerave "Moisturizing Cream" to the skin before riding. I realize all that's highly personal but only offer to say I never ride the pad bone dry. If I get any signs of abrasions my go-to is hands down a thin layer of Bag Balm over the area. That stuff never fails.

Your pad I gotta say simply looks like it's worn to the point it should be retired. Maybe it's the camera but the surface looks like it's had a lot of abrasion. Do your tights fit second skin tight and were they long enough ?