Originally Posted by Hermes

Bob_Ross Sorry for being harsh on Tucson road conditions...maybe too harsh.

So better yet...maybe...here is a video from a training camp put on by an operator in Tucson where my wife and I had a great time and would do it again with that group of people (customers and operator personnel) anywhere in the US or International - Totally fun and screw the roads and wind they were immaterial. The riding was hard and we had some hitters in the group. Fantastic time and it showcases Tucson scenery.

The first three riders up Mount Lemmon, including my my wife, killed it. It was a fun climb but hard and long. The video was produced by the operator, Cycling House, that features the campers, employees and Tucson terrain and one can see the road surfaces - sometimes and judge for oneself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5ghRgt6eGY