Tourist in MSN: You are correct it is the Co-Motion Pangea, their 26" single. I had looked at the Thorn but wanted the belt. The Tubus Grand Expedition is 27.5 oz. As I stated earlier in this thread, this rack is lighter than the Old Man Mountain or the Surly. The lowryder mounts were about 1" off, so I used that rack accessory. The rack is still a 5 point mount and very solid. I need the top deck for some closed cell foam pads that I want to use in addition to my air mattress.