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Old 06-12-19, 09:20 AM
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I've been in exactly one group ride that was run as it should be (well, two, both the same group though, two different days/routes).

Both had a leader who was extremely well respected locally, took no **** on the road from anyone, checked everyone's ego, and asked people not to come back who couldn't obey the ride rules.

You have to have a leader willing to shut **** down and get rid of the bad apples, or it will devolve and the good people will stop coming because it's dangerous/annoying.
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