Originally Posted by
Kimmo
People talk as if only one angle of stem is available, and they can't be flipped.
My 2 bikes came with the stem already "up" and only a 5 mm spacer on top. And there is a limit on the stem rise, typically 35° or so unless you go to adjustable stems. It would be good manufacturers just gave us uncut steerers, even if they had to add 2 cm of spacers on top.
Many modern bikes are aggressively low, while many actual riders require comfort over speed.
Just another reason to build bikes from frame up. .......