Old 09-19-18, 07:42 PM
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Thanks and found another

Thanks @CliffordK For an old guy you sure are smart!
Originally Posted by CliffordK
Keep an eye out on the Hybrid market.
Originally Posted by Clem von Jones
bikeisland has a decent aluminum canti frame, an unbranded KHS CX200 that might (?) run 40c tires. I think this frameset would make a serviceable road and gravel bike. Little bit on the heavy side but at least it ain't made of plastic ;-) except the front fork. The steel Black Mountain frames are probably worth the extra $300 if you want a really nice long-term bike.

here's a link, I'm referring to the Dawes frame in the middle: BikeIsland.com - Bicycle Parts, Accessories and Clothing at Affordable Prices with Free Shipping
Thanks. I found another on bikeisland

BikeIsland.com - Bicycle Parts, Accessories and Clothing at Affordable Prices with Free Shipping

Both appear to have short head tubes and I have no idea how stiff they are or how they ride. Any insight from owners? Both are gravel/cyclo bikes

It's a Fantom Cross but for the life of me I can't find a proper geometry chart with stack/reach and head tube length (see Fantom Cross Frame Geometry)
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