Originally Posted by
cubewheels
They're actually quite useful even if you'll never use them on gravel.
Sure, but my post that you quoted was based on the OP's first post which did not mention gravel at all. Only in the next six posts between his and mine did "gravel" get mentioned a bunch of times. But it is 2020 and everyone is recommending gravel bikes now, so I shall not stand in the way.