if cycling specific lobster gloves are not cutting it for you, then I'd like to mention bar mitts
rode for 3 hrs at 33 degrees &
rain. took my gloves off for the last hour cuz I use bar mitts. was only using thin windstopper type gloves before taking them off. recently rode in the 20s with typical cycling winter gloves but switched to some lighter football fan gloves. bar mitts are ugly, I admit but I accept them cuz they are sport specific. I have them for both my straight & drop bar bikes. they are great cuz they block the wind & provide shelter from the rain. easy on, easy off, not a long term commitment. not expensive either
awesome in the rain