Originally Posted by
chas58
Really? I have two steel frames that weigh in at carbon +2 lbs. They were not expensive. Its not walmart steel, but it doesn't have to be 800 series reynolds either...
You said there is no good reason for steel to not be within 2# of carbon. I think cost is a good reason.
Are you genuinely only talking about frame material or frame and fork? Sure- if its just frame material, then 2# difference is doable and common- Jamis Renegade Expert vs Renegade Exploit for example- same drivetrain and brakes groupset, both carbon forks, and 2.75# difference.
Jamis Xenith Comp in 105 form or Jamis Quest Elite in 105 form- the steel Quest is $750 less and only .25# heavier. Again though- carbon fork on the Quest.
If you are talking steel frame only, then sure 2# is absolutely doable and cost will be comparable(or even less, perhaps)
If you mean frame+fork though, which is what i figured...