Originally Posted by Danny01

These Niner RLT's, be it steel or carbon are not THAT over priced. However it can be cheaper to start with the frameset and source the parts online. The framesets are a bit expensive. MSRP is $2,300 for the RDO. For only $400 more, you can get a Jamis Renegade Expert, the entire bike. Carbon frame, thru axles, Shimano 105 hydros, carbon seatpost, good tires, nice bar tape. They want $1,500 for the 853 version. For about $300 more, you can get a Made in USA custom geometry, made to measure, Gunnar frame and fork. So yeah Niners are not the value choice, but they aren't a rip off compared to some big name brands out there that charge $5,000+ for poorly built carbon frames. A couple hundred bucks over its competitors is whatever if someone wants the Niner for whatever reason. If I had the space and a couple grand to burn, I would have one of each of the RDO and 853 and not have a problem paying retail. Maybe next year...