Originally Posted by
MichaPau
Hi Jamis Renegade owners!
Could anyone confirm that the picture on the official Jamis site for the Expat model is a 54 frame (or even smaller).
It should be estimable when looking at the Head Tube length for someone who has one of this size.
[can't add the image here because I just subscribed here]
I'm asking this because I can't decide between the 56 and 58 frame size.
So I try to scale to fit and overlay the images in a graphic program to get a feeling about the frame in comparison with my actual bike.
(overlaying the semi-transparent images to see the difference in the geometry)
When I do this with the image from the jamis site it seems to small to fit me. (which is normal when it is a 54 frame).
I've tried to search for other undistorted side-view images and found one claiming to be a 58 frame size which than seems to big for me.
I don't have the real measurements of my actual bike, it's a very old road bike and I am a bit scared that I don't do it right when measuring it with a tape.
I'm 180cm (5'11') with an inseam of 84cm (33''). I guess both the 56 and the 58 should fit my size.
But thing is, ideally, my new bike should have just a little bit more reach than my actual bike has.(seems to be around 370mm - but again I am not totally sure where to measure exactly - the stem is shaped completely different etc.)
Thanks if anyone can recognize the frame size of the image on the jamis web page.
I'll give you the best fit rundown I can. The Expat on the Jamis site looks like a 54. My Expat is a 56. In the pics below I set it back up as close to stock as I can (90mm stem and 2cm of spacer below the stem) so you can get an idea of how it will fit on the sales floor. I'm 5'10" with a 89cm inseam, I generally run my saddle 77-78cm depending on riding conditions. Saddle height is 77cm from top of saddle to center of the bottom bracket in the pictures. I have 7.5cm of saddle setback. This setup has a saddle to bar measurement of 53cm and a saddle to bar drop of 4.5cm. This is as neutral of a position as I can give you, hope it helps. This is what I look like on the bike in "stock" mode.
The 56 will provide you with the most versatility in terms of fit. I test rode the 58 and the only reason I would ever ride it is if I needed to get my handlebar at or above saddle height. If the bike you have now really only has 370mm of reach then both sizes will feel longer, but the 58 will feel huge. A few things that would help with fit are your current saddle height, how much saddle to bar drop you want, how much saddle setback and the distance from the nose of your saddle to the middle of your bar. Are you looking for a more/less aggressive position than the one above? If you scroll through the thread you can see two setups I've used. The 650b is much more relaxed for trail/gravel and the current setup a few posts back is 2cm longer and 2.5cm lower than the one above. Below is a pic of the bike itself for your reference.
