Originally Posted by
mstateglfr
Bikes have evolved and will continue to evolve.
You are dominating a thread and arguing for something that doesnt exist. There isnt a 3" wide tire road bike around. Basically, you have the Salsa Fargo, Cinelli Hobootleg(some version), Wilier Jaroon(something), and probably something else from a small brand.
I am really sorry to the OP - I didn't realize I was 'dominating' the thread, that's absolutely not my intent. And you're absolutely correct about road bikes, my point was just that "road bikes" aren't really meant to be ridden on the road at all, they're really road RACING bikes that are built around the concept of not quick speed over distance but rather a sprint finish. I would absolutely welcome a shift toward longer chainstays, shorter stems and top tubes, wider tires, different bars, etc. Again, sorry for being over bearing, I didn't realize until you said something, I am just clearly very passionate about efficiency, safety, etc.