Originally Posted by
corwin1968
Pre-2017 KM's and Ogres differed in their tubesets (Ogre = heavier) and braze-ons for touring (Ogre = more). The geometry has been identical while the two bikes have co-existed. The early KM's were a bit different. I doubt most of us could tell the difference while riding them. The 2017 Ogres remain to be seen.
If that was the only difference, I'm surprised anyone bought the KM over the Ogre.
Bike 24 lists the
KM size 18 frame weighing in at 2600grams approx and the
Ogre size 20 frame weighing in at 2700grams approx.