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Originally Posted by wgscott
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Both melting point and viscosity typically correlate to the strength of intermolecular interactions (hydrogen bonding, ionic interactions, hydrophobic effect, van der Waals interactions, dipole-dipole interactions, induced dipole interactions, solubility in aqueous solvents, etc).

It is a trend, not an absolute law of physics. (It is the net result of many different, and sometimes competing physical effects that are governed by relatively simple laws of physics.)

I gave you a link with a table of simple organic compounds that illustrated the trend.

You gave a counter-example (one I was unaware of), and I did my best to explain it without getting too technical.

Perhaps I made a mistake in assuming you were more interested in an explanation rather than playing internet games.

If you actually care: Fats and cooking oils are generally mixtures of rather complex molecules, so there are many factors (presence of double bonds, cis vs. trans double bonds in fatty acid chains, intra- and inter-molecular pi-electron interactions and delocalization, potential for aromatic stabilization and aromatic stacking interactions, polar vs. ionic head groups, miscibility with water, etc) that will influence viscosity and melting points, compared to typically much more simple mixtures, or sometimes single compounds (eg, paraffin).

If you just want to argue pointlessly on the internet: The cooking oil example is really irrelevant to the topic of the thread, unless you think it might be a good idea to lubricate your chain with something like olive oil. At least instead of having to guess when to clean and re-lube from the squeaking, you could just go by how rancid your chain smells.

I used cooking oils because they are common and rather obvious to those that have cooked with them. But I had already used the example of high temperature engine oils that are formulated to have much higher viscosities than paraffin at the same temperature.

So I am genuinely puzzled where your relatively academic statement about the trend between viscosity and melting point fits into a discussion about man-made chain lubricants. Which high viscosity lubricants am I unfairly bringing into the discussion, and why do you think mentioning something like Tenacious Oil on a bicycle forum is poor manners on my part?


Can you please connect the usefulness of your earlier statement to the real world examples that would matter to a cyclist that has access to formulated oils rather than purified chemical compounds?
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